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[NoelSeven]

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@Smaug wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

And even the sherrif is stating that the girl bears responsibility for how this scenario played out, for acting out to the level that the officer even had to be called in.

So it goes. She bears as much responsibility as he did (more because she started it) for what happened to her.

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Is there a news source where I can read this? Thanks. 

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@Say Nay

Yes in the link that the OP posted herself, then argues about what is in it.

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You have it backwards.  Even the sheriff in charge can't make you understand what he said,

[NycVixen]

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@physicsnut wrote:

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@Smaug wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

And even the sherrif is stating that the girl bears responsibility for how this scenario played out, for acting out to the level that the officer even had to be called in.

So it goes. She bears as much responsibility as he did (more because she started it) for what happened to her.

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Is there a news source where I can read this? Thanks. 

I also heard the sheriff state this on last night's news update.  This would have never started if the girl had obeyed her teacher and put her cell away which was against class policy.  She refused x 3. 

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@physicsnut You forgot to add that the Sheriff also stated despite her responsibility for starting the incident, he also said that the officer is wrong for how he handled the situation. I also read somewhere that he wanted to throw up when he saw the video.

[NoelSeven]

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@physicsnut wrote:

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@Smaug wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

And even the sherrif is stating that the girl bears responsibility for how this scenario played out, for acting out to the level that the officer even had to be called in.

So it goes. She bears as much responsibility as he did (more because she started it) for what happened to her.

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Is there a news source where I can read this? Thanks. 

I also heard the sheriff state this on last night's news update.  This would have never started if the girl had obeyed her teacher and put her cell away which was against class policy.  She refused x 3. 

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But heaven forbid that we make what has been reported as an 18 year old be responsible for their own behavior and actions. (some reports say 16 some say 18).

Hopefully a lesson learned by her and others that witnessed the event, that sometimes the consequences of your actions/behavior aren't equal to the 'crime', so think about that before you think the rules don't apply to you.

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Sheriff Lott made clear...  “what she did doesn’t justify what our deputy did.”

[CrazyDaisy]

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@physicsnut wrote:

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@Smaug wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

And even the sherrif is stating that the girl bears responsibility for how this scenario played out, for acting out to the level that the officer even had to be called in.

So it goes. She bears as much responsibility as he did (more because she started it) for what happened to her.

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Is there a news source where I can read this? Thanks. 

I also heard the sheriff state this on last night's news update.  This would have never started if the girl had obeyed her teacher and put her cell away which was against class policy.  She refused x 3. 

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But heaven forbid that we make what has been reported as an 18 year old be responsible for their own behavior and actions. (some reports say 16 some say 18).

Hopefully a lesson learned by her and others that witnessed the event, that sometimes the consequences of your actions/behavior aren't equal to the 'crime', so think about that before you think the rules don't apply to you.

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Probibly the only lesson learned will be the amount of the pay out they get from the lawsuit.

[Mominohio]

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@NoelSeven wrote:

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@Smaug wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

And even the sherrif is stating that the girl bears responsibility for how this scenario played out, for acting out to the level that the officer even had to be called in.

So it goes. She bears as much responsibility as he did (more because she started it) for what happened to her.

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Is there a news source where I can read this? Thanks. 

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He said she bore responsibility for the officer being called in, NOT for the assault.

The CNN link has it, Smaug.

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Well, lets just look at chain of events. If she hadn't behaved in a way for him to be called, then she wouldn't have even had to be in a position to have happen to her what did. Chain of events, that she is responsible not only for initiating, but for escalating after repeated interaction by school staff.

[Say Nay]

BTW the girl is 16. According to Reuters the Sheriff's office corrected their mistake when they identified the teen as being 18 years old.

[AngusandBuddhasMom]

Regardless if she is 16 or 60 to pull her out of the chair like that shows how little respect he has for his community and the people he serves. 

Think of it this way what if that was your child? Would you really be OK with somebody viciously man handling them. I would not even remember what I would do to that man if he dared to do that to my child. 

[Mominohio]

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@NoelSeven wrote:

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@Smaug wrote:

This is from the NYT which is much different from what @Mominohio wrote:

On Wednesday, Sheriff Lott made clear that he believed some responsibility for the episode rested with the student, who he said “started this whole incident with her actions.” But, he said, “what she did doesn’t justify what our deputy did.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/29/us/south-carolina-deputy-ben-fields-fired.html?_r=0

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Thanks, Smaug.

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Funny how you totally miss the words I underlined above.

[Preds]

FROM AP ...

The sheriff also had stern words for the student who started the confrontation by refusing to hand over her cellphone after her math teacher saw her texting in class — a violation of school policy. Both she and another student who verbally challenged the officer's actions during the arrest still face charges of disturbing schools.

"The student was not allowing the teacher to teach and not allowing the students to learn. She was very disrespectful and she started this whole incident," Lott said. "It doesn't justify his actions. But she also needs to be held responsible for what she did."

[biancardi]

it DOESN"T matter what she did. The police officer did not do HIS job. If he cannot handle the stress and daily duties of enforcing the peace, then he needed to quit

She didn't have a gun, she had a CELL PHONE.  She threw the first punch (maybe) but didn't connect with him.  A cell phone is like skittles, it isn't a weapon.

If this was your child, you would be rightly upset and with good reason.  Whatever she did in that video, did not merit what HE did to her.

He abused his power and authority.