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Re: Downs Twin Left With Surrogate

On 8/6/2014 tansy said: Having a Downs child now, thankfully, is so different than back 40 years ago when I volunteered with children that were institutionalized and had little to no contact with their birth families. A friend's adult son works as a courtesy clerk at a nearby market and shares an apartment with two other Downs adults. There is a supervisor who keeps an eye out on these individuals. There's a mall nearby with a huge food court and entertainment in the weekends and I'll often see large groups socializing. It's wonderful to see the independence and self-worthSmiley Happy


I had a boyfriend in college years ago whose lifelong friend (who I also knew) had a Down Syndrome aunt. She was considered a rarity because she had lived so long, which was probably into her 40s at that time. I met her once. They didn't think she would live a lot longer because her heart had been affected. I don't know how long she did live, but to my knowledge it was at least some years after that.

Pretty sure she would live even longer now, because of the advances in treating medical problems of the heart. The family loved and adored her, and I remember she did a lot of the cooking.

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Re: Downs Twin Left With Surrogate

I heard they hadn't paid the surrogate the full amount they owed her. Has anyone heard anything about the adoptive Mother is she older as well.

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On 8/6/2014 milly said:

I heard they hadn't paid the surrogate the full amount they owed her. Has anyone heard anything about the adoptive Mother is she older as well.

They don't seem to be very honorable...what a shock!

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Re: Downs Twin Left With Surrogate

On 8/6/2014 tansy said: Having a Downs child now, thankfully, is so different than back 40 years ago when I volunteered with children that were institutionalized and had little to no contact with their birth families. A friend's adult son works as a courtesy clerk at a nearby market and shares an apartment with two other Downs adults. There is a supervisor who keeps an eye out on these individuals. There's a mall nearby with a huge food court and entertainment in the weekends and I'll often see large groups socializing. It's wonderful to see the independence and self-worthSmiley Happy

When I lived in Issaquah, there was a local firm that collected cardboard, plastic, metal etc for recycling. All the employees were intellectually disabled, mostly Downs, with a supervisor. They were the nicest bunch of people I ever met, always cheery, no matter the weather. Someone set up a company - that did make money - in order to offer employment to those who may otherwise find job-seeking difficult. I like that someone, whoever he or she is.

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Re: Downs Twin Left With Surrogate

On 8/6/2014 Clover29 said:
On 8/6/2014 tansy said: Having a Downs child now, thankfully, is so different than back 40 years ago when I volunteered with children that were institutionalized and had little to no contact with their birth families. A friend's adult son works as a courtesy clerk at a nearby market and shares an apartment with two other Downs adults. There is a supervisor who keeps an eye out on these individuals. There's a mall nearby with a huge food court and entertainment in the weekends and I'll often see large groups socializing. It's wonderful to see the independence and self-worthSmiley Happy

When I lived in Issaquah, there was a local firm that collected cardboard, plastic, metal etc for recycling. All the employees were intellectually disabled, mostly Downs, with a supervisor. They were the nicest bunch of people I ever met, always cheery, no matter the weather. Someone set up a company - that did make money - in order to offer employment to those who may otherwise find job-seeking difficult. I like that someone, whoever he or she is.

I didn't know about that place, Clover. I like that company's founder, too. The mall I mentioned is Crossroads. QFC markets often hire Downs individuals.
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Re: Downs Twin Left With Surrogate

On 8/6/2014 tansy said:
On 8/6/2014 Clover29 said:
On 8/6/2014 tansy said: Having a Downs child now, thankfully, is so different than back 40 years ago when I volunteered with children that were institutionalized and had little to no contact with their birth families. A friend's adult son works as a courtesy clerk at a nearby market and shares an apartment with two other Downs adults. There is a supervisor who keeps an eye out on these individuals. There's a mall nearby with a huge food court and entertainment in the weekends and I'll often see large groups socializing. It's wonderful to see the independence and self-worthSmiley Happy

When I lived in Issaquah, there was a local firm that collected cardboard, plastic, metal etc for recycling. All the employees were intellectually disabled, mostly Downs, with a supervisor. They were the nicest bunch of people I ever met, always cheery, no matter the weather. Someone set up a company - that did make money - in order to offer employment to those who may otherwise find job-seeking difficult. I like that someone, whoever he or she is.

I didn't know about that place, Clover. I like that company's founder, too. The mall I mentioned is Crossroads. QFC markets often hire Downs individuals.

Here, also. One of SF's fanciest markets had a DS man that packed items in grocery bags. A nice guy who got his job done faster than the others who did the same task.

They also had a 100 year old man working there. He was a sweetheart, greeted everyone and went around the store finding things for people and straightening up the shelves as he went. He was a nice looking man, still, who'd had his own store, sold it and retired, then realized he missed the life. He used to show up yearly for the 1906 earthquake remembrance, which btw was at 5 in the morning.

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Re: Downs Twin Left With Surrogate

On 8/6/2014 milly said:

I heard they hadn't paid the surrogate the full amount they owed her. Has anyone heard anything about the adoptive Mother is she older as well.

If she breached the contract, I'd be withholding funds as well.

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On 8/6/2014 SydneyH said:
On 8/6/2014 milly said:

I heard they hadn't paid the surrogate the full amount they owed her. Has anyone heard anything about the adoptive Mother is she older as well.

If she breached the contract, I'd be withholding funds as well.

No she didn't.

There is no contract ON EARTH that would include a clause that she would have to terminate at the dad's will. None.

Plus, since she is a woman that believes termination is wrong, she never would have signed such a contract IN THE FIRST PLACE - they would have had to find another egg for sale and a womb for rent.

She delivered to him a healthy child. She completed her part of the deal.

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On 8/6/2014 terrier3 said:

No she didn't.

There is no contract ON EARTH that would include a clause that she would have to terminate at the dad's will. None.

Plus, since she is a woman that believes termination is wrong, she never would have signed such a contract IN THE FIRST PLACE - they would have had to find another egg for sale and a womb for rent.

She delivered to him a healthy child. She completed her part of the deal.

Ok I'll bite Terrier, show me a copy of the their agreement. It's beginning to sound like this surrogate is making a public money grab for the child they told her they did not want.

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She should sue the agency as well. They knew the baby had problems and never told her until the 7th month.