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09-13-2016 02:20 AM
It`s obvious you haven`t considered the people that can`t have children. Their pets are their children.
09-13-2016 03:00 AM
@Hershey2 wrote:It`s obvious you haven`t considered the people that can`t have children. Their pets are their children.
So...you're saying that people who can't have children, but who have pets, should be able to take those pets *anywhere* children are taken, because they're "child substitutes" and so NATURALLY that's okay?
To the table in a booster seat in a restaurant? To church? To the movies? To the doctor's office with them?
09-13-2016 03:45 AM - edited 09-13-2016 03:47 AM
and I'd rather have my dog, than most people! I will add, she doesn't shop with me.
09-13-2016 07:44 AM
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09-13-2016 09:04 AM - edited 09-13-2016 09:05 AM
@BalletBabe wrote:
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09-12-2016 01:14 PM
@BalletBabe wrote:
Dogs don't belong in grocery stores. PERIOD It is against the law here where I live.
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@It's not against the law if they are service dogs @BalletBabe
The law very clearly states they must be allowed in any business or place wherever the general public is allowed to go.
The Banality Of Evil
Hannah Arendt, Philosopher .
I know service dogs are allowed. Service dogs are not usually in the cart. I never said service dogs were not allowed. I meant dogs in general are not allowed.
@BalletBabe- as you state, pets nor emotional support dogs who are claimed by owners to be "service dogs" are not permitted in public venues. I would be stunned to see anyone eject a seeing eye dog or a dog helping a severely disabled person. The animal must be working or performing a task while in a store. The law is quite clear about service dogs and all others. All dogs are not service dogs no matter what the owner calls them and therein lies the problem. It's not the law but how people interpret it and enforce it. I love dogs but I don't want mine in a supermarket nor would he chose to go there if he were asked. It has always been against health codes for dogs (excluding service dogs) to be in supermarkets/food service and that still stands no matter how people have tried to spin it. The ADA and law has been updated/revised not to clarify that "service dogs" are always permitted ( that has always been in the law) but to clarify that emotional support dogs are not (unless it is a psychiatric service dog, that is permitted) and that owners and proprietors have rights under the law as well. The owner/dog's function can be questioned under the ADA regs. But must stop short of asking for protected health care information but a note from a provider can be requested without a diagnosis confirming the function of the animal in the venue; certificates are useless as they can be purchased with vests over the Inet so they offer little info. Most proprietors don't understand the law, don't want the hassle or bad PR; they also don't have guidelines for their employees. We have a tremendous number of dogs in our area due to highrises, most permitting dogs....our supermarket permitted dogs without question until a small child was bitten on the ankle, an immunosuppressed child at that...now, the health department and store managers are proactive and have signs in the window stating that owners will be questioned about their dogs if the need is not obvious and all comfort dogs and service dogs must be registered at Town Hall so there are no questions about what they are. I imagine things will change because there is abuse and the rights of the patrons are also protected under ADA which people don't seem to understand. as usual, the problem is the human not the dog.....
09-13-2016 10:55 AM
Perfect answer!
09-13-2016 10:55 AM
I think that's a great idea that the Health Dept. and store management have signs saying dog owners WILL BE QUESTIONED.
It's a shame for the service dog owners to have to be subjected to the possibility, but perhaps it's better for their safety and the safety of their service dog. (Other *pets* charging towards them.)
I have the utmost respect for those *workhorses* and sometimes I have to force myself to not want to go over and hug one!
09-13-2016 12:19 PM
Speaking of *workhorses*, imagine seeing a miniature horse inside a store!
A miniature horse named Shadow, is being trained as a service animal.
09-13-2016 01:30 PM - edited 09-13-2016 01:33 PM
I love seeing service animals in places.
I mean as long as they aren't over there muching on the salad bar I am okay. ![]()
09-13-2016 01:51 PM
@Pqfan wrote:I love seeing service animals in places.
I mean as long as they aren't over there muching on the salad bar I am okay.
Have you seen some people at the salad bar? On occasion it's quite disgusting! LOL!
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