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[NoelSeven]

On 8/21/2014 traveler said:

I remember a few years when SP was governor. A native village was suffering and needed fuel and food. They appealed to the state. The governor brought Franklin there to preach. I think they received help from other people's donations.

That's too bad.

[NoelSeven]

On 8/21/2014 pitdakota said:

On 8/21/2014 Love Roses said:

On 8/21/2014 ILikeShade said:

On 8/21/2014 Love Roses said:

Good for the doctor to leave the hospital. I would still want him to be watched and monitored for a while. We don't know if the virus would come back in a relapse that would be stronger and more deadly.

You're right. It is only a THEORY that it won't come back. As you can imagine, they haven't tested this theory by infecting survivors with the virus again.

source: http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/21/health/ebola-treatment-drug/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Exactly. He could be like a typhoid Mary with others he does come into contact with. I am not that gullible to just go along with the authorities at all anymore. We have been mislead too many times on too many issues.

No you cannot compare the 2 at all. First of all, ebola is a virus and typhoid is a bacteria. Bacteria and viruses are totally different from each other. They do not act the same at all.

Second of all, if there is no virus in their system.....it is not even plausible that anyone could become infected by someone that doesn't even have the virus. In other words think of it this way. How can someone acquire chickenpox from someone else that doesn't have chickenpox?

And it isn't about believing authorities. It is basic science. It is about knowing about viruses, bacteria, or any other microbe and immunology.

I'm very glad you found this line, PD

[foundinlv]

Love Roses never said she was comparing Typhoid with Ebola.

[NoelSeven]

On 8/21/2014 scotttie said:

On 8/21/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 8/21/2014 scotttie said:

On 8/21/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 8/21/2014 MJ 12 said:

On 8/21/2014 scotttie said:

<br /> Sidsmom: Here is what Dr. Graham has to say about that:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/08/21/ebola-ethics-kent-brantly-samaritans-purse-africa-...

Honorary Doctorates, I think.

Yes, honorary only.

Doctor of Divinity. He runs and I believe started Samaritans purse. He is the son of Dr. Billy Graham and that is why he did the editorial.

ETA: Evidently My mistake about the appellation of Dr. I thought he was a Dr. of Divinity. Indeed here are his props:

The eldest son of Billy and Ruth Bell Graham, he serves as President and CEO of Samaritan's Purse and the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association. Under his leadership, Samaritan's Purse has met the needs of poor, sick, and suffering people in more than 100 countries. As an evangelist for the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, he has led crusades around the world.

Franklin's were honorary. My grandfather had a Doctor of Divinity from a very well respected university, not an honorary.

I worked with Billy Graham and I remember how much trouble Franklin used to get in, I loved his dad but I am not a fan of Franklin.

Here are references for Franklin's honorary degrees:

http://billygraham.org/about/biographies/franklin-graham/

I will not hear any disrespect about any of the Grahams. Sorry. Franklin is a tireless worker for the Lord.

And I hope you read the article I posted that was his letter about the Ebola in USA today.

Scottie, you brought up Franklin, I responded to you honestly. I was hearing about him long before he figured out what side his bread was buttered on.

Franklin is nothing like his father.

[pitdakota]

On 8/21/2014 Marp2 said:

On 8/21/2014 pitdakota said:

On 8/21/2014 Marp2 said:

Hi Pit,

Have you received any information about the new hemorrhagic gastroenteritis outbreak (not ebola) in Dakkar that WHO is monitoring?

Hi Marp,

I have a couple of emails with this as the subject content, but I haven't had time to open them and read them yet. Too busy getting ready for classes to start.

I will try to get to them though and see what information they have.

Thanks Pit, will be interested to get some information. I know samples are being tested but that is about it.

Marp, I just went back to work email (only because it was you ), but both of the emails were just basic news releases with no other specific information that is any different than what the media is carrying.

I also went to both the WHO and CDC website and couldn't locate anything specific at this time.

Will be interesting to follow & see what it is....maybe another zoonotic disease? Or maybe something else. Dengue is not uncommon in that area ...could be a variation? Guess we will just have to see what else comes out.

[pitdakota]

On 8/21/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 8/21/2014 pitdakota said:

On 8/21/2014 Love Roses said:

Exactly. He could be like a typhoid Mary with others he does come into contact with. I am not that gullible to just go along with the authorities at all anymore. We have been mislead too many times on too many issues.

No you cannot compare the 2 at all. First of all, ebola is a virus and typhoid is a bacteria. Bacteria and viruses are totally different from each other. They do not act the same at all.

Second of all, if there is no virus in their system.....it is not even plausible that anyone could become infected by someone that doesn't even have the virus. In other words think of it this way. How can someone acquire chickenpox from someone else that doesn't have chickenpox?

And it isn't about believing authorities. It is basic science. It is about knowing about viruses, bacteria, or any other microbe and immunology.

I'm very glad you found this line, PD

Hi Noel!!

ETA: Somewhat hard to transmit a virus to someone if you don't have the virus in your body. Not to mention that he now has acquired immunity to this strain of ebola. Best kind of immunity to have!!

[hsawaknow]

That is the best news. Its possible they can find a cure!

[NoelSeven]

On 8/21/2014 pitdakota said:

On 8/21/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 8/21/2014 pitdakota said:

On 8/21/2014 Love Roses said:

Exactly. He could be like a typhoid Mary with others he does come into contact with. I am not that gullible to just go along with the authorities at all anymore. We have been mislead too many times on too many issues.

No you cannot compare the 2 at all. First of all, ebola is a virus and typhoid is a bacteria. Bacteria and viruses are totally different from each other. They do not act the same at all.

Second of all, if there is no virus in their system.....it is not even plausible that anyone could become infected by someone that doesn't even have the virus. In other words think of it this way. How can someone acquire chickenpox from someone else that doesn't have chickenpox?

And it isn't about believing authorities. It is basic science. It is about knowing about viruses, bacteria, or any other microbe and immunology.

I'm very glad you found this line, PD

Hi Noel!!

Hi PD

I appreciate when you fill in the blanks, give a complete picture, up to date information, AND much more!

[Marp2]

On 8/21/2014 pitdakota said:

Marp, I just went back to work email (only because it was you ), but both of the emails were just basic news releases with no other specific information that is any different than what the media is carrying.

I also went to both the WHO and CDC website and couldn't locate anything specific at this time.

Will be interesting to follow & see what it is....maybe another zoonotic disease? Or maybe something else. Dengue is not uncommon in that area ...could be a variation? Guess we will just have to see what else comes out.

Thanks Pit. I doubt it is Dengue just because it is so common and recognizable. A variation--perhaps. At least so far the death rate is relatively low so it is apparently treatable or self-limiting. I do think zoonotic is probable particularly considering the suspected point of origin.

Please let me know if you learn anything specific. I will also keep up with WHO and CDC.

Once again, thank you.

[NoelSeven]

On 8/21/2014 Marp2 said:

On 8/21/2014 pitdakota said:

Marp, I just went back to work email (only because it was you ), but both of the emails were just basic news releases with no other specific information that is any different than what the media is carrying.

I also went to both the WHO and CDC website and couldn't locate anything specific at this time.

Will be interesting to follow & see what it is....maybe another zoonotic disease? Or maybe something else. Dengue is not uncommon in that area ...could be a variation? Guess we will just have to see what else comes out.

Thanks Pit. I doubt it is Dengue just because it is so common and recognizable. A variation--perhaps. At least so far the death rate is relatively low so it is apparently treatable or self-limiting. I do think zoonotic is probable particularly considering the suspected point of origin.

Please let me know if you learn anything specific. I will also keep up with WHO and CDC.

Once again, thank you.

I remember hearing years ago that zoonotic diseases were coming because of the increasing disappearance of the rain forest and other deforestation.

Do you think that's a part of it?