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ThinkingOutLoud · ‎05-01-2020

Sure would be nice if people would stop spreading fear.

Mindy D · ‎05-23-2010

@phoenixbrd wrote:
@Mindy D Our resident poster of glad tidings! Just kidding, of course, I love the facts and the timeliness of your posts....much appreciation.

I'm wondering...aren't these contradictory statements? For those of us who received Pfizer will want to know:

It does appear that vaccines do provide good protection against the delta variant though the protection, based on research coming from Pfizer, appears to show that its vaccine's protection against the delta variant is not as robust as its protection against other strains. Preliminary evidence shows that Pfizer's vaccine appears to be highly effective at protecting against severe disease and death from the delta variant, but more time is needed to determine if this protection holds true as more evidence is garnered from more cases, especially in the U.S. and in infected persons with underlying health conditions

@phoenixbrd @When it comes to vaccines, 63% protection against delta might not be as good as 94% infection against other strains, but it is still considered to be good protection. We have been spoiled by the numbers we've been seeing from the mRNA vaccines. Their level of protection is higher than what has been seen with many other vaccines, such as influenza vaccines, for example. ("recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine." Quoted from the CDC website).

Pfizer's only been looking at the real world cases of delta virus infection in persons vaccinated with Pfizer's vaccine for a very short time and so far, vaccinated persons in Israel have low numbers of severe infection in the presence of high circulation of the delta variant. Getting the exacting science to make a true determination will require sequencing from patients to ensure which variant they were infected with. This data is still being collected and is very preliminary. Pfizer has not published results but the Israeli Health Ministry has made public statements about this.

phoenixbrd · ‎03-27-2010

@skatting44 Yes, I wonder if those "thousands of people from all over the world" have been tested? It's a trick question.

@skatting44 wrote:
next we'll be hearing abt Lambda variant that is prevalent in Chile. Also it has to be an inaccuracy that so far no cases in the US despite thousands of new people from all over the world entering the US on a regular basis .

On It · ‎03-15-2021

@ThinkingOutLoud wrote:
Source?

The sources are listed in the original post.

Mindy D · ‎05-23-2010

@ThinkingOutLoud wrote:
What is quoted above only talks of cases. Keep in mind there's a big difference between cases and deaths. In point - saw this a few days ago -
New public England study of delta variant shows 44 deaths out of 53,822 (.08%)

@ThinkingOutLoud @Thank you. I didn't post about deaths, because my post is about the increase in delta variant cases. Chances could be that the vaccines will protect against deaths. 🙏 I'd like to see more about morbidity among vaccinated persons versus unvaccinated persons.

What is New public England? Was this study one conducted in England? I'd like to read it.

ThinkingOutLoud · ‎05-01-2020

@On It wrote:
@ThinkingOutLoud wrote:
Source?
The sources are listed in the original post.

They weren't when the op first posted which is why I asked.

ThinkingOutLoud · ‎05-01-2020

@Mindy D wrote:
@ThinkingOutLoud wrote:
What is quoted above only talks of cases. Keep in mind there's a big difference between cases and deaths. In point - saw this a few days ago -
New public England study of delta variant shows 44 deaths out of 53,822 (.08%)
@ThinkingOutLoud @Thank you. I didn't post about deaths, because my post is about the increase in delta variant cases.

This is my point. With only focusing on cases, the info seems to be more about spreading fear/pushing vaccines. When info is ommitted, that's telling.

Mindy D · ‎05-23-2010

@ThinkingOutLoud wrote:
Sure would be nice if people would stop spreading fear.

@ThinkingOutLoud @We have been seeing changes of transmissibility from different variants for a year. I would think that just because we have a more transmissible variant now the fear wouldn't be any greater than when we learned of the S. African variant and the Brazilian variant. We don't have data yet on morbidly from the delta variant in the unvaccinated. We don't have much information yet about the effectiveness of any vaccines against the delta variant except the small amount of news of Pfizer's vaccine effectiveness against infection with the delta variant being effective, though less so than against other variants. We don't have morbidity data yet in the U.S.. We do have data on the prevalence of new cases of the delta variant in the U.S. We are learning that this variant is now dominant in the same way we learned when other strains became dominant here. Any fear people derive can be greatly reduced by carefully reading and evaluating information.
What I glean from the information, for my personal response, is that I will be masking when in public and I'm predicting that I'll need a booster. I'll also need to keep a close watch on continuing news about this and I will not become complacent and think the pandemic is over in the world. We already know that the more cases of the virus that occur worldwide the more chances for the virus to mutate and for new viruses to emerge. Certainly, in this, knowledge is power.

Mindy D · ‎05-23-2010

@ThinkingOutLoud wrote:
@On It wrote:
@ThinkingOutLoud wrote:
Source?
The sources are listed in the original post.
They weren't when the op first posted which is why I asked.

@ThinkingOutLoud @Sorry, I always have to go back to retrieve my sources since I can only link if the source is one that has no ads, such as a journal or the CDC.

JamandBread · ‎06-24-2021

There is no fear spreading. The facts are clear. The variant now accounts for the majority of those testing positive. The majority of deaths are those who have not been vaccinated. The virus is going to spread in pockets of the country that are not vaccinated. The more unvaccinated, the more chance for other variants to emerge which can eventually take hold in the vaccinated population. Science has told us this. This has been scientifically proven.

Trifling about deaths is offensive to me. As if the .08% aren't people with family and friends, without future plans and hopes and dreams.