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[Mindy D]

The highly contagious delta variant now accounts for more than 51% of COVID-19 cases in the U.S., according new estimates released by the Centers for Disease Control. The Delta variant is now the predominant variant in th U.S., accounting for 51% of COVID cases. In some areas of the country, the variant accounts for 80% of new infections. Missouri, Kansas and and Iowa are included in this 80% number. In the Western states of Utah and and Colorado, the variant is responsible for 74.3% of new cases and in Texas, Louisiana, Oaklahoma and Colorado, new cases of the delta variant account for 58.8% of new cases. It does appear that vaccines do provide good protection against the delta variant though the protection, based on research coming from Pfizer, appears to show that its vaccine's protection against the delta variant  is not as robust as its protection against other strains. Preliminary evidence shows that Pfizer's vaccine appears to be highly effective at protecting against severe disease and death from the delta variant, but more time is needed to determine if this protection holds true as more evidence is gathered from more cases, especially in the U.S. and in infected persons with underlying health conditions. Preliminary evidence from Pfizer also shows that their vaccine could provide a good, though lesser degree of protection, against infection from the delta variant than it did against other variants. The delta variant is more transmissible than other variants and is rapidly becoming the predominant strain worldwide. Studies of vaccine effectiveness against the delta strain by other vaccine manufacturers are needed to determine their effectiveness. In the graph below, you can compare the increase in new COVID cases by strain, between the weeks of 6/19 2021 and 7/3/2021 to see the dramatic rise in new cases the delta variant, B.1617.2

My information comes, in part from, "Delta is Now the Dominant Coronavirus Variant in the U.S.", NPR online news, July 6, 2021. 8:23 PM ET

My source also includes the most current graph from the CDC, as of July 3, 2021.

"Protection Provided By The Pfizer Vaccine May Be Fading, Israeli Officials Say," NPR online news, July 6, 2021, 4:38 P.M., by Rob Stein

[ThinkingOutLoud]

Source?

[phoenixbrd]

@Mindy D   Our resident poster of glad tidings!  Just kidding, of course, I love the facts and the timeliness of your posts....much appreciation.

I'm wondering...aren't these contradictory statements?  For those of us who received Pfizer will want to know:

  It does appear that vaccines do provide good protection against the delta variant though the protection, based on research coming from Pfizer, appears to show that its vaccine's protection against the delta variant  is not as robust as its protection against other strains. Preliminary evidence shows that Pfizer's vaccine appears to be highly effective at protecting against severe disease and death from the delta variant, but more time is needed to determine if this protection holds true as more evidence is garnered from more cases, especially in the U.S. and in infected persons with underlying health conditions

[skatting44]

next we'll be hearing abt Lambda variant that is prevalent in Chile.  Also it has to be an inaccuracy that so far no cases in the US despite  thousands of   new people  from all over the world entering the US on a regular basis .

[ThinkingOutLoud]

What is quoted above only talks of cases. Keep in mind there's a big difference between cases and deaths. In point - saw this a few days ago -

New public England study of delta variant shows 44 deaths out of 53,822 (.08%) 

[Vivian]

I have a 95 year old uncle who says he doesn't need the vaccine because he has been taking the right combination of vitamins for years and they will protect him. No, he doesn't have dementia. He is just suspicious, paranoid, and is willing to sacrifice common sense for conspiracies. He was wounded in WW2 and earned a medal for his bravery. He still has a bullet in him, and I would hate to see him die of Covid.

Unless there is a medical reason why vaccination is contraindicated, it makes no sense to avoid the shot. We already know that catching Covid is even more dangerous than it was a year ago because of this new variant. We already have evidence that the vaccines  have been safe for many, many people. If one waits for 100% assurances, there aren't any...for ANY vaccine. Even if inadvertent, passing Covid onto vulnerable people is now a foolish, needless, and selfish act.

[ThinkingOutLoud]

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@skatting44 wrote:

next we'll be hearing abt Lambda variant that is prevalent in Chile.  Also it has to be an inaccuracy that so far no cases in the US despite  thousands of   new people  from all over the world entering the US on a regular basis .

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Yep. Wish people would put 2 and 2 together and see how one-sided things seem to be. (trying to figure out how to word things...)

[Creek Street]

Your uncle is an intellingent man.

[liliblu]

This was discussed on the news today.

[ThinkingOutLoud]

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@Vivian wrote:

I have a 95 year old uncle who says he doesn't need the vaccine because he has been taking the right combination of vitamins for years and they will protect him. No, he doesn't have dementia. He is just suspicious, paranoid, and is willing to sacrifice common sense for conspiracies. He was wounded in WW2 and earned a medal for his bravery. He still has a bullet in him, and I would hate to see him die of Covid.

Unless there is a medical reason why vaccination is contraindicated, it makes no sense to avoid the shot. We already know that catching Covid is even more dangerous than it was a year ago because of this new variant. We already have evidence that the vaccines  have been safe for many, many people. If one waits for 100% assurances, there aren't any...for ANY vaccine. Even if inadvertent, passing Covid onto vulnerable people is now a foolish, needless, and selfish act.

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Sources please. What I've read doesn't back up what you're saying.