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‎03-05-2014 11:12 AM
If I'm reading correctly, capital letters & different wording indicates the Clerk is not there. That's why she's adamant about changing it back to "her way". If Clerk would claim she's working & the Supervisor would see the entries we're not her style, that would raise red flags. Sounds like she's covering her own butt, yes?
Marianne: that's true...didn't know how sophisticated their systems were.
Do you think she has ADD?
‎03-05-2014 11:16 AM
In most computer systems you can tell who and when things are entered and updated.
‎03-05-2014 11:24 AM
‎03-05-2014 12:45 PM
Your friend has already complained to the supervisor about it - apparently before talking to the Clerk and making any attempt to find out why she is doing this - and the supervisor while saying she "understood that your friend was annoyed" also said she should talk to the Clerk about it. It seems the supervisor has no problem with it - other than an unhappy employee.
Since your friend has already involved the boss, it probably would be good to now talk to the Clerk - in case the supervisor asks the Clerk at some point if you two have resolved the issue.
Unfortunately, it looks like your friend wants to get the Clerk in trouble rather than solve the problem. This does not bode well for her and I hope she can take a more positive approach in the future.
‎03-05-2014 12:54 PM
On 3/5/2014 JamicaJammer said:How badly does your friend need that paycheck?
IMHO, ONLY if she's willing to risk being under the microscope and potentially released from her job, I'd ask for a meeting with the changer and the supervisor. I'd NEVER meet just with the changer.
And at the very start of the meeting, have my pad and pen ready to WRITE DOWN INFO.
That way, they know you're going to make a record of what was decided in that meeting.
If the supervisor refuses to meet with the 2 people, you know right then that the changer has passive/aggressive support of management, and your friend should either let it go or get another job.
You can't get let go from this type of job like that..Unions and all! That isn't even on the radar. Her frustration is dealing with the Clerk. The Database is not sensitive to lowercase/uppercase and only one other person uses it and that is to actually take information out for her report.
Others in the Dept do have access to the Database but only the Clerk, my friend and Supervisor actually can make changes.
You can tell the time and date stamp of the changes..so yes, she knows it is being done and by who.
She said the Supervisor totally understands her frustration and supports her on whatever she wants to do. I think the Supervisor would be very willing to meet with them both or even one. She is a pretty decent person.
Everybody knows when she calls in, she can't hide it.. Either my friend or their supervisor then do the database. According to my friend the Supervisor said she also changes her entries too she noticed. She changed them back to see what would be done and the Clerk would rechange them lol..
The Clerk has many issues and the Supervisor lets it go on her end ..but said she gets it that my friend has had enough and that we all have different levels of acceptance. She has drawn the line in other areas so she understands.
From what I have gathered the Clerk keeps making the changes as that is the way "it always has been done.." meaning that is the way she has always done things. She has some issues with my friend coming into the dept a couple years ago and has the role of back up supervisor/coordinator of the dept.
There is no right/wrong way to enter things in the database. It is a listing of demographic information and only one outside person accesses it for her reports and she is able to gather the information she needs whether it be captial or not.
The Database is not one person's domain per se..it is the Dept. The Clerk does it primarily when she is there but when she is not (which is often and another thread in itself LOL) my friend and supervisor then step in and do it.
I don't think my friend it out to get the Clerk in trouble..as if that was the case there are some major other issues that she could def do..the Supervisor has had issues with the Clerk on other levels and spoke to her. My friend is in the know as like I said she is back up to the Supervisor. My friend said she just wants her work to be left alone as long as it is correct. If she entered say the wrong DOB that would be another story. But to go behind somebody and change the way they enter something because it isn't the way you do it or want it..Well that wouldn't set right with me either.
I think she is going to say something to her give her a chance to explain why she keeps changing her work when it is not wrong....I will let you know the outcome when I know lol!!
Thanks for the responses.
‎03-05-2014 01:14 PM
I don't understand why the supervisor is putting this off on your friend to work out - if the supervisor is aware of the problem, why is she not directly involved in resolving it??? That should be in her job description......sounds to me like she doesn't want to deal with it....
‎03-05-2014 01:21 PM
On 3/5/2014 CouponQueen said:There is no right/wrong way to enter things in the database. It is a listing of demographic information and only one outside person accesses it for her reports and she is able to gather the information she needs whether it be captial or not.
If that's the case, I would pick my battles more wisely.
‎03-05-2014 02:31 PM
On 3/5/2014 kittymomNC said:I don't understand why the supervisor is putting this off on your friend to work out - if the supervisor is aware of the problem, why is she not directly involved in resolving it??? That should be in her job description......sounds to me like she doesn't want to deal with it....
Altho I was contradicted when I said this before - 35 years in HR confirmed my statement that most supervisors/managers do not like conflict - and are not particularly happy when employees bring them these sorts of problems.
You can say all day - and you are right - that this is part of their job. However......
‎03-05-2014 02:35 PM
personally...........your friend is making a big deal about nothing.........................raven
‎03-05-2014 02:39 PM
On 3/5/2014 kittymomNC said:I don't understand why the supervisor is putting this off on your friend to work out - if the supervisor is aware of the problem, why is she not directly involved in resolving it??? That should be in her job description......sounds to me like she doesn't want to deal with it....
Coming from management I know why. This is petty. There are always trouble makers and some managers do not want to deal with petty squabbles. Women are notorious for them. I know this from experience. I once said to my staff "you better learn how to get along or we can walk upstairs and you can explain it to the big boss" They got along.
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