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Re: Classrooms are armed with a bucketful of rocks

Was he being facetitious? Was he making a point how all he is left with is really nothing but telling kids to use rocks to defend themselves? 

 

I asked a few people I know about this. All thought he never was serious about the rocks he was using it as a metaphor for the useless suggestions for the elephant in the room. Gun control is necessary. Without it we are reduced to telling our kids to use rocks to defend themselves...

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Re: Classrooms are armed with a bucketful of rocks

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@cherrywrote:

Yeah right... just shoot the messenger because you don't like the message,  talk to some of the parents that have burried their kids ,because no one has tried to stop this


But you haven't shown much compassion for others here Cherry and you haven't been very honest either. You aren't just the messenger, you've become a major defender of this story, and that's fine, but you should own that if you truly believe in it the way you say you do. Don't back down and pretend you just delivered a message--unless you want to back down--which would be fine, but at least say so if that's the case.

 

It also seems wrong for you to bring grieving parents into your argument as if you know they're all gung-ho for the throwing rocks idea...unless, of course, you're saying you've already spoken to them but I doubt that's the case.

 

 When you make blanket statements like people don't care others will  tune out and won't be listening when there is something of value to be said. People get hurt and angered by inaccurate portrayals and accusations and it tends to curtail effective communication. We need to be mature enough to realize that having differences in ideas of how to make things better doesn't make one side good and one side bad. We need to work together to extract the best from both sides of the isle to create something that will be of the most benefit for everyone. Making enemies of each other will lead to nothing but failure.

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Re: Classrooms are armed with a bucketful of rocks

From the article I couldn't tell @Trinity11...I did glean that he cares about the kids, a great deal

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Re: Classrooms are armed with a bucketful of rocks

It was just me, trying to answer everyone, as honestly ,and quickly as I could.  I didn't  take time to dress up my answers. I just told them how I felt...It is very hard to try to answer a heap of people ,all posting at the same time

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@cherrywrote:

From the article I couldn't tell @Trinity11...I did glean that he cares about the kids, a great deal


@cherry My impression is that his hands are tied and some of the useless rhetoric surrounding how to better protect our schools has him thinking it is no better than telling kids to arm themselves with rocks.

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@cherrywrote:

The only better, is funding for  decent  school security ,and  laws about selling semi automatic weapons to people not in law enforcement...

 

 


You can't stop people from getting weapons--automatic or otherwise.  You have to figure out how to protect from them,how to identify potential situations and violent people, and why our children are prone to violence.

 

We can play like there is this simple answer but there really isn't.  What so many people are advocating isn't really getting at the heart of the problem at all.  It won't change much.

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You might be right @Trinity11..  I thought of my daughter and her partner wrestling with the guy high on heroin, that tried to grab her partners gun, at on of the dorms . It was a very bad scene. My daughter is 5 ft 100 lbs. She managed to knock the guy down, but it took everything she ,and her partner could do, to subdue and cuff him...She is lucky to be alive, and the students are too

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@Trinity11wrote:

@cherrywrote:

From the article I couldn't tell @Trinity11...I did glean that he cares about the kids, a great deal


@cherry My impression is that his hands are tied and some of the useless rhetoric surrounding how to better protect our schools has him thinking it is no better than telling kids to arm themselves with rocks.


He wasn't being facetious. Unfortunately, he seems to be a good man with a bad idea. 

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@Trinity11wrote:

@cherrywrote:

From the article I couldn't tell @Trinity11...I did glean that he cares about the kids, a great deal


@cherry My impression is that his hands are tied and some of the useless rhetoric surrounding how to better protect our schools has him thinking it is no better than telling kids to arm themselves with rocks.


He wasn't being facetious. Unfortunately, he seems to be a good man with a bad idea. 


I guess it is subjective and subject to interpretation.

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@Trinity11wrote:

@SusieQ_2wrote:

@Trinity11wrote:

@cherrywrote:

From the article I couldn't tell @Trinity11...I did glean that he cares about the kids, a great deal


@cherry My impression is that his hands are tied and some of the useless rhetoric surrounding how to better protect our schools has him thinking it is no better than telling kids to arm themselves with rocks.


He wasn't being facetious. Unfortunately, he seems to be a good man with a bad idea. 


I guess it is subjective and subject to interpretation.


Not if you're talking about the idea of arming students with rocks. I saw him presenting this idea and he was 100% serious. If you're talking about whether people think it's a good idea that is definitely subject to interpretation as we've seen so clearly here in this thread.