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Re: Changes to Social Security Disability 2020


@tobes wrote:

@Nuttmeg It's Stressful for me that two people who live on my street are collecting disability while working for their family and being paid "under the table." Benefits both payee and payor.  These people make it difficult for those who are truly disabled such as my friend. 


Have you reported them?

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@shoekitty : Current benefits for Jan will increase $16 and Medicare increases $11. I was shocked to discover that my work credits included the time that I worked at JCP after school during my junior and senior year in high school - part time even though I worked 39 1/2 hours per week. I am very Thankful and Blessed. Appreciate the information and help. Southern Bee

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Re: Changes to Social Security Disability 2020


@SouthernBee wrote:

@I am still oxox : I am handicapped but worked for over 23 years in a very stressful job but had to retire on disability. I had to fill out review papers every two years but had the medical documents to support my case. I will be 66 in July and have been told the disability social security with change over to regular social security but don't know if the amount will decrease. Sad that some people assume if you get disability- you have never worked, lied and cheated to get the benefits. Plus some disabilities are severe but no physical evidence to show what a person struggles with on a daily basis.Southern Bee


@SouthernBee  So true, hidden disabilities are the worst. My daughter looks fine and can put on a good act to hide her depression from others. No one would guess the daily struggles she has just to fight off suicidal thoughts.

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Re: Changes to Social Security Disability 2020


@SahmIam wrote:

We are watching this closely on behalf of our son. What I'm finding is it depends on the disability and the "verdict": will you be able to work in the future? That's a loaded question for many.

 

My son qualifies for food stamps but doesn't apply for it. 

 

We were notified that his montly check will increase by $12 and odd cents starting 1/1/20. That doesn't even cover a co-pay on one of his many drugs.

 

 


@SahmIam  I am in the same boat as you. My daughter will get a $8 increase which won't begin to cover the $4,000 per month shot she gets. Drug companies are out of control but that is for another thread.

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@panda1234 : People just don't understand depression unless they have felt it. My DH is retired military with ptsd and depression and people tell him - you need to shake it off and move on- just not that simple. Depression and living with so many physical issues can't be overcome with out medical and other help. People take for granted being healthy and no mental or physical disability, plus you include the issues that come with getting older. Southern Bee

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Re: Changes to Social Security Disability 2020


@Nbo wrote:

@NickNack wrote:

@Nbo wrote:

@Nataliesgramma wrote:

I am all for eliminating fraud....there are people who know how to work the system.

 

My daughter is on Disability and if you have documentation that you are being treated for your illness, I don't think you have anything to worry about.


@Nataliesgramma I am lucky that I am married and we are able to live with one income. I worked until I could no longer work. I look healthy but the burning nerve pain I have is so bad that sometimes I can't even think. I stopped working because I started having to check and recheck my work because I was scare to mess up. I have been seeing a Doctor for this condition and no I don't qualify for disability. It's nerve damage and not enough for disability. 


 

 

@Nbo   Have you seen a disability attorney?  There are no fees unless your case is approved and you win.  The attorney's fees are paid from your disability.

 

I applied for disability on my own and was turned down 3 times.  I knew I was disabled, and so did my doctors.  I finally went to an attorney at my doctor's suggestion and was approved.  It was a very long process, and I got paid back to the first date they said I was disabled.  Now I get monthly payments.  I would think significant nerve damage would definitely qualify you for disability. It certainly can't hurt to see an attorney.  They have lots of experience and will not take your case if they don't think you can win.  My attorney said you were usually turned down if you didn't have an attorney.


@NickNack No,but I will look into it. Thanks


I didn't see this mentioned but the attorneys take a percentage of your monthly income that is awarded - for life. So just know that while they may win your case, they will take some of the money as well. Or, in sone cases, a friend of mine finally got her case approved after 3 years of working with attorneys and got a lump sum, They took a bit cut of the final award. 

 

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Re: Changes to Social Security Disability 2020


@Piper54 wrote:

just google it dear, this has been on the mind of the administration for a long time, people will also have to work for food stamps. This is going to be very bad for needy people with few other options.


that's a blanket statement based on nothing but a swipe at the administration, People who legitimately need and receive any kind of benefits have nothing to worry about, It's those that have cheated the system and go away with it that might have the problem.

 

Really, I would think most people think this is a good thing, Don't you all realize that fraud takes away money and benefits from those who truly need it. Eventually money runs out. It's always a good thing to review any programs that pay out money from the government to insure it is going to those who deserve it,

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Re: Changes to Social Security Disability 2020


@bathina wrote:

@Piper54 wrote:

just google it dear, this has been on the mind of the administration for a long time, people will also have to work for food stamps. This is going to be very bad for needy people with few other options.


I believe for the most part, people aren't paying attention until something effects them. A lot of folks on disability should be panicked. They will essentially have to prove all over again that they are disabled. A scary thought for anybody on any kind of social program. 

What's even more galling is it's being done to try and close the deficit since the tax laws gave incredible advantages to the richest among us.


garbage. Do you really think there is enough manpower to review every single case of disability and that there are enough doctors to once again perform the mandatory physicals needed to prove disability? And if someone was/is on temporary disability and expected at some point to be improved and cleared for work, shouldn't they be? 

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Re: Changes to Social Security Disability 2020


@bathina wrote:

@shoekitty wrote:

Instead of looking at what others are getting or have, why not look at what we have.  When I read some of these posts it makes me sad at the lack of compassion  or insight for those who a on disability, welfare, food stamps or such. It might be better to be be thankful that you dont have to need the services.  Dont worry about what they get.  I pay taxes for lots of things I dont use.  I dont  have kids in schooll yet  I help pay for them.  I have paid taxes on everything for over 50 years of my life.  There will always be a few that take advantage of everything.  But if it means 9 of the 10 people who receive food stamps need and appreciate them in their life it is worth it.

 

be thankful and not so judgemental of those in need..

i think there is a saying about walking in moccasins I could use here.  But I think the point is driven.


 


There are many miserable people who walk through life comparing what they have to others. They are resentful because they've never been able to make anything of themselves. They've reached advanced age and they are alone and unhappy.

Couple that with gross ignorance at the top of the food chain and voila - you've got people grousing over a lousy few dollars and mocking disabled people.

Pity them. They will sadly get what is coming to them and will be shown the same mercy they've shown others. Theirs is an unhappy ending. Be glad you're not them.


I'm appalled at your characterization of many people with this broad swipe, 

 

Resentful because they've never made anything of themseves? Not even close,

Advanced age and alone and unhappy? How dare you?

Grousing over a few dollars? This is about reviewing a process that is rife with abusers, and in the end, those who do truly need help will not get enough because so many others are gaming the system and many think it is just too cruel to perhaps weed them out,

...sadly get what is coming to them? So you are deeming yourself one of the merciful ones by allowing too many programs to look the other way at theft and fraud and then waiting for the day when others will get their just due. So merciful of you, 

 

I hope you, or no one you know, has a business and employs people, because you know if one of the workers in that company stole from the business owner, he/she should just look the other way. 

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Re: Changes to Social Security Disability 2020

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@PinkSunset wrote:

@Nbo wrote:

@NickNack wrote:

@Nbo wrote:

@Nataliesgramma wrote:

I am all for eliminating fraud....there are people who know how to work the system.

 

My daughter is on Disability and if you have documentation that you are being treated for your illness, I don't think you have anything to worry about.


@Nataliesgramma I am lucky that I am married and we are able to live with one income. I worked until I could no longer work. I look healthy but the burning nerve pain I have is so bad that sometimes I can't even think. I stopped working because I started having to check and recheck my work because I was scare to mess up. I have been seeing a Doctor for this condition and no I don't qualify for disability. It's nerve damage and not enough for disability. 


 

 

@Nbo   Have you seen a disability attorney?  There are no fees unless your case is approved and you win.  The attorney's fees are paid from your disability.

 

I applied for disability on my own and was turned down 3 times.  I knew I was disabled, and so did my doctors.  I finally went to an attorney at my doctor's suggestion and was approved.  It was a very long process, and I got paid back to the first date they said I was disabled.  Now I get monthly payments.  I would think significant nerve damage would definitely qualify you for disability. It certainly can't hurt to see an attorney.  They have lots of experience and will not take your case if they don't think you can win.  My attorney said you were usually turned down if you didn't have an attorney.


@NickNack No,but I will look into it. Thanks


I didn't see this mentioned but the attorneys take a percentage of your monthly income that is awarded - for life. So just know that while they may win your case, they will take some of the money as well. Or, in sone cases, a friend of mine finally got her case approved after 3 years of working with attorneys and got a lump sum, They took a bit cut of the final award. 

 


@PinkSunset

A Social Security Disability attorney receives payment only when he or she wins a case. When a person goes before a judge, and wins. The judge sets the date of disability and the amount of the attorney's fee. 

I was very fortunate to find a great attorney and her staff help me with my claim. 

I did not need to have a hearing. The fee may have been 5-6K dollars. This amount can from the the back money.