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06-01-2025 10:58 AM
I see no reason why people who understand the science of skin would not do surgery for the problems nothing topical can fix,
We consumers pf slkincare products need t0 pay very careful attention to the verbiage. Over and over what I hear is how the products will DIMINISH THE APPEARANCE OF FINE LINES AND WRINKLES. I can actually see that with the products I use. I do not ever expect my skin care to accomplish what surgery does.
Some people try to hide their age with hair color, many use myriad kinds of color cosmetics to alter their appearance, and I see absolutely no reason why anyone who appears in front of the camera shouldn't use surgery if that's what works for them.
06-01-2025 11:02 AM
I would go well beyond disengenuous and directly to misleading bordering on duplicitous. As soon as I see him I turn off any thought of using his products.
06-01-2025 11:13 AM
People who have plastic surgery on their face still need to do skin care. I don't see anything wrong with Dimitri and Dr. Denese selling skin care products when they've both had work done.
06-01-2025 11:19 AM
Skin care and plastic surgery are not related.
You can use great skin care to avoid acne, black heads, protections from the sun to help avoid wrinkles etc. but there is no skin care that will help with sagging skin, drooping eyelids and double chins.
Even though many skin care lines will tell you that their products will tighten the skin, they do not.
If you want to remove years from your face, you need to use great skin care and also plastic surgery. In combination they work wonders.
Many people cannot afford plastic surgery, but they can still take care of their skin.
I don't find it misleading for a spokesperson for a skin care line to also use plastic surgery to achieve good results.
06-01-2025 11:26 AM
NO I don't find it uncanny at all! Good skin care is just that: taking care of your skin. There are some things you can do that help with turgor by temporarily plumping the skin, etc. But Skin care doesn't prevent sagging and a lot of other aging issues from occurring. In office lasers and other modalities along with surgery gives correction results and that's what you have to be able to afford. That Dr. Denese and others have cosmetic surgery is common for those with financial means to invest in it.
Surgery can give results that are dramatic and longer lasting but even that needs tweaking. Having in office laser treatments and some other modalities like microneedling can provide additional results beyond what skin care gives you.
It doesn't bother me that Dr. Denese and Dimitri and others have cosmetic surgery. It's a choice and in keeping with their own wishes and their social group expectations. They are "salesmen" and are selling a product. I believe good skin care gives some results but not miracles.
06-01-2025 11:30 AM
06-01-2025 12:11 PM - edited 06-01-2025 12:48 PM
@Bonkers1 wrote:Does anyone else find it uncanny that some of the skincare lines who profess top rated products have had work done on their faces? Dr. Denese, Adrianne (HSN) and Dimitri (HSN). Most recently it looks like Dimitri added more eye work to his collection?
Sidenote to @Bonkers1 ...i saw what you did re; subject line...lol
06-01-2025 12:21 PM
Dimitri is way too freaky to watch, too much work!
06-01-2025 12:23 PM
@Bonkers1 ............I totally agree in my opinion one of the skincare vendors looks frightening.
06-01-2025 12:56 PM - edited 06-01-2025 09:33 PM
Has anyone seen Kris Jenner's new look? She looks totally
different and her face is much thinnner, looking more like her daughters. I'm too chicken to do anything like that.
I have always taken care of my skin and have used moisturizers since I was twelve. I did other things, not knowing that they would be beneficial to my skin.
I have worn sunglasses since I was twelve, because they were fashionable. I didn't realize that sunglasses, keeping you from squinting , helps to prevent crowsfeet. At 78 I don't have forehead wrinkles either.
Also, having five babies kept me inside and out of the sun much of the time. At both of my houses, I had shady yards with a lot of trees. When in the sun, I mostly wore and still wear a straw hat to protect from the sun.
Eating healthy protein,fruits and vegetables, drinking plenty of water to hydrate your skin , avoiding too much sugar, alcohol and smoking are factors too. Getting adequate sleep is important too.
Having good genes helps. All the women in my mother's family, looked younger than their years.
My face and jawline are not as tight as when I was young, but I
won't have surgery, I'm too sensitive and have bad reactions to
anesthesia and medications.
I've accepting getting older, but I'll still take care of my skin.
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