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The problem with time and memory is that it's faulty. We remember things as better or worse than they were. Anyone who talks about the past with their families knows that, while they all experenced the same event, there is little agreement and discrepancies abound. It's unfair to make accusations years after the real or imagined event no matter the excuse.

 

If a person accepted improper behavior in exchange for a job, advancement, favor...that was their choice, there decision at the time and if they now regret their decision it's on them.

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

@NAES1

 

Was this Pamela Anderson thing a recent interview?  You have a link, by any chance?  


It was recent, I read it the other day, also.

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@occasionalrain wrote:

The problem with time and memory is that it's faulty. We remember things as better or worse than they were. Anyone who talks about the past with their families knows that, while they all experenced the same event, there is little agreement and discrepancies abound. It's unfair to make accusations years after the real or imagined event no matter the excuse.

 

If a person accepted improper behavior in exchange for a job, advancement, favor...that was their choice, there decision at the time and if they now regret their decision it's on them.


When you make a deal with the devil, that doesn't mean you lose your power. Far from it. The women today became powerful in their own right and now its payback time. 

 

 

Payback was never off the table.  

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@occasionalrain wrote:

The problem with time and memory is that it's faulty. We remember things as better or worse than they were. Anyone who talks about the past with their families knows that, while they all experenced the same event, there is little agreement and discrepancies abound. It's unfair to make accusations years after the real or imagined event no matter the excuse.

 

If a person accepted improper behavior in exchange for a job, advancement, favor...that was their choice, there decision at the time and if they now regret their decision it's on them.


EXACTLY!!!  You are an adult - take responsibility for your own decisions and actions. 

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@NAES1 wrote:

@webbgarner1 wrote:

 I agree with what  the actress Pamela Anderson had to say and I had long thought. In al ot of these situations, these women who are now calling theirself victims should have known better. Why would you go to a mans hotel room alone and him being there alone as well. You are sending the message, yeah I will play along, then cry harassment years later.

Now if someone is denying you a promotion in the workplace unless you do sexual favors that is different matter. But a lot of these women, not all, put thierself in these positions and did not set bounderies. 

Most men will stop the behavior if you stand your ground and tell them it is not appreciated and do not do it again, but when you play along and then complain that is wrong.


      @webbgarner1,

 

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@cbrite>>>>>>>>>> as mentioned from your post (another thread)

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                         I also read,  then [reread ] every single word that

 

 Pamela Anderson said in her true to point view of these many situations, and agreed everything she wisely stated: Women know better than to go in to hotel room alone...they know they are positioning any type of behavior.

  With few - - very few exceptions- - most young girls (adults) and women old enough to know better are clearly mesmerized by Power and money.

 

  This is nothing new and has been going on for

   __way before I was  I was ever born_!

 

  I was not allowed to car date at 16-17, not because my parents did not trust me, but very knowledgeable of what 'The date' could have power over me. Just the one to one car dates, nothing to do with couples going together to dances and other high school activities. 

 

 This (almost) reminds me of high school again...the girl dated the football player(s) to be popular and noted to be ahead of the other girls, either due to low self esteem, or never being noticed before.

 

The GUYS never wanted the company...after the once- they were > O U T.

 

  When I was in my 20s -had graduated from my series of nursing schools, I had the top Chief of Staff as one of my private room patients.

 

He asked for me each day, until I became very uncomfortable being that near by- to his needs.

 

 He said if I leave he would have a petition signed to not let me leave that one hospital, but I did on my own and never looked backed. 

Working in any hospital, I always was faced with these troublesome... so thought powerful physicians.

 

I could `smell` intuitively when one thought I could be bought and be given any position wanted- I left to another floor where, then-  I became a teaching clinical medical adviser. 

 

I was engaged soon after that to be married...!!And!! Good RIDDANCE because I would have destroyed their lives, and would be a poster nurse...This too, can happened to you if you Don't Scream Out - Rid the little gods.

I was one of the very fortunate ones because I would never fall victim to slime scums after their young prey.

 

Thank God I had  very caring and wise parents.

 

 My heart ache is for those (both female and males) who had no role models.

 

  Young girls have no business being with young boys with high testosterone levels - alone in a car, far away from help;also, that goes for the girls that mature too early.  Both know (even in high school) know what is happening, just too caught up in the "hey no consequences for me syndrome" .

These men, the so called high profiled powered creeps just keep on going UNTIL CAUGHT.        Just that SIMPLE!

 

 In these situations, most have lost their power through testosterone, trading off with power and money.................!

                   


 

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For the record, I found Harold Ford Jr.'s response to the allegations, which came shortly after they were made.  His accuser is a member of the media.  It sounds like he had been interviewed for a story by her.  He denied the accusation, saying he had never forcibly grabbed any woman in his life.

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@fordtruck wrote:

@occasionalrain wrote:

The problem with time and memory is that it's faulty. We remember things as better or worse than they were. Anyone who talks about the past with their families knows that, while they all experenced the same event, there is little agreement and discrepancies abound. It's unfair to make accusations years after the real or imagined event no matter the excuse.

 

If a person accepted improper behavior in exchange for a job, advancement, favor...that was their choice, there decision at the time and if they now regret their decision it's on them.


When you make a deal with the devil, that doesn't mean you lose your power. Far from it. The women today became powerful in their own right and now its payback time. 

 

 

Payback was never off the table.  


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Payback = revenge

 

 

 

 

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@Plaid Pants2 wrote:

@fordtruck wrote:

@occasionalrain wrote:

The problem with time and memory is that it's faulty. We remember things as better or worse than they were. Anyone who talks about the past with their families knows that, while they all experenced the same event, there is little agreement and discrepancies abound. It's unfair to make accusations years after the real or imagined event no matter the excuse.

 

If a person accepted improper behavior in exchange for a job, advancement, favor...that was their choice, there decision at the time and if they now regret their decision it's on them.


When you make a deal with the devil, that doesn't mean you lose your power. Far from it. The women today became powerful in their own right and now its payback time. 

 

 

Payback was never off the table.  


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Payback = revenge

 

 

 

 


It could be a few things including justice.  

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Never heard of Harold Ford Jr.

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Why is it assumed the men were the ones coming on to the women? Most, if not all, successful women are opportunists, some users. Young women marry rich old men. The entertainment business is among the most competitive and the window for women to make it is small. I don't believe there is an innocent among the Me Too tribe.

I don't believe someone assaulted/harassed by a man would ask him to sign her yearbook.