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[physicsnut]

Maher is a despicable individual. 

[RainCityWoman]

Chickenbutt, you don't owe anybody any explanation at all. People contribute their opinions and experiences on this board....all people. Like you, I haven't smoked any herb in years and years, partly because I have asthma and partly because those I once did it with no longer do it. It's not interesting to me if it's not a social thing. My state legalized both medical and casual use marijuana, but I haven't bought any, not even the cookies and brownies. However, I have arthritis that really bothers me at times and have contemplated asking my doctor to prescribe it, since I am allergic to most anti inflamatory drugs. At any rate, marijuana is the least of our problems in this country. Jim Morrison of the Doors was noted for being high most of the time, but those who knew him best claim his number 1 drug of choice was ALCOHOL.  It's always been the drug of choice for the general population, and it has led to more health problems than MJ ever has.

[terrier3]

I know a lot of professional people - lawyers, doctors, etc. who smoke weed recreationally. It doesn't affect their careers in the least.

I can't believe it's still an issue in 2016.

[60sgirl]

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@terrier3 wrote:

I know a lot of professional people - lawyers, doctors, etc. who smoke weed recreationally. It doesn't affect their careers in the least.

I can't believe it's still an issue in 2016.

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and I know/knew a lot who are now dead. And if it doesn't affect careers, I wonder why 2 seasonal part time jobs I applied for and was offered the jobs have mandatory drug screenings before the formal offers are made. Screening for ALL drugs in your system including cigarettes.  

Why should people accept things they don't believe in just because some people think it shouldn't be an issue anymore? I wonder if all those health plans you sold through the ACA would continue to give coverage to people who smoke cigarettes, weed, drink alcohol every day.? If they told their doctors and it was noted in their medical records and the health insurance plan reviewed those records for some billing/coding record, would they renew their plan?

[physicsnut]

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@terrier3 wrote:

I know a lot of professional people - lawyers, doctors, etc. who smoke weed recreationally. It doesn't affect their careers in the least.

I can't believe it's still an issue in 2016.

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     Many studies - Norhwestern University being the latest study - has proved just the opposite. Smoking pot does long term damage and certainly would not want to be treated by a physician who even smokes "recreationally" nor be represented by a lawyer who does the same.  It should always be an issue

[RainCityWoman]

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@terrier3 wrote:

I know a lot of professional people - lawyers, doctors, etc. who smoke weed recreationally. It doesn't affect their careers in the least.

I can't believe it's still an issue in 2016.

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     Many studies - Norhwestern University being the latest study - has proved just the opposite. Smoking pot does long term damage and certainly would not want to be treated by a physician who even smokes "recreationally" nor be represented by a lawyer who does the same.  It should always be an issue

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Then don't go to a lawyer or doctor who smokes MJ, not that you would even know. It's not as if they would pull out a doobie in front of you.  LOLOLOLOL.

[physicsnut]

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@RainCityWoman wrote:

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@physicsnut wrote:

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@terrier3 wrote:

I know a lot of professional people - lawyers, doctors, etc. who smoke weed recreationally. It doesn't affect their careers in the least.

I can't believe it's still an issue in 2016.

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     Many studies - Norhwestern University being the latest study - has proved just the opposite. Smoking pot does long term damage and certainly would not want to be treated by a physician who even smokes "recreationally" nor be represented by a lawyer who does the same.  It should always be an issue

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Then don't go to a lawyer or doctor who smokes MJ, not that you would even know. It's not as if they would pull out a doobie in front of you.  LOLOLOLOL.

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          "recreational" smokers turn into "daily" users - and yes - you can tell.

[terrier3]

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@60sgirl wrote:

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@terrier3 wrote:

I know a lot of professional people - lawyers, doctors, etc. who smoke weed recreationally. It doesn't affect their careers in the least.

I can't believe it's still an issue in 2016.

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and I know/knew a lot who are now dead. And if it doesn't affect careers, I wonder why 2 seasonal part time jobs I applied for and was offered the jobs have mandatory drug screenings before the formal offers are made. Screening for ALL drugs in your system including cigarettes.  

Why should people accept things they don't believe in just because some people think it shouldn't be an issue anymore? I wonder if all those health plans you sold through the ACA would continue to give coverage to people who smoke cigarettes, weed, drink alcohol every day.? If they told their doctors and it was noted in their medical records and the health insurance plan reviewed those records for some billing/coding record, would they renew their plan?

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There is no revocation of health insurance based on smoking, drinking, drugging, or even overeating to the point of obesity. It is ILLEGAL to deny coverage based on health or lack thereof. Company sponsored plans are allowed by law to charge extra for smokers - but smokers cannot be denied insurance.

If any of the above vices are affecting people's lives in a negative way - they can and should have access to assistance - dieticians, substance abuse counseling, detoxes, etc.

Health insurance isn't just for the healthy...it's insurance - a risk pool that includes everyone.

[Irshgrl31201]

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@chickenbutt wrote:

Ok, I watched the episode.   First of all, I was not familiar with ANY of the three on the panel.  The lady had some rather 'off' things to say but I guess she believed what she was saying so I cannot begrudge her that.

Of course, I'm familiar with Richard Engel (love him!) and that was interesting.   He's an amazing journalist - and very brave!

I'm also familiar with Margaret Cho as a comedian.   For one second I must be hideously superficial and remark that I just don't like her super short hair.  It's not working on her for me.  That said, it's none o my business.  

As for her 'war criminal' remark, for some reason I had this impression that she went on a rant about that.  She made the remark and explained why she felt that way so I was not offended by it.  Her reasoning was legit but maybe another term would apply, but I didn't feel like she was that far off at all.

As for firing up the doobie - I guess if they can, they can.   I'd like to think that he made the guests aware, up front, that that was going to occur so I imagine they could be ok with it or leave.   I would be shocked if that were not known ahead of time.

Tell ya what - I've done my own share of weed smoking in the past (haven't done so for at well over a decade, however) and I was hoping they might pass it my way.     Now that I live with 24/7 pain, I'd be curious as to if it could help me with my pain.  No, really.  Well, ok - plus, getting high is fun.  hehe

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please have your fun getting high in your own house, hopefully never behind the wheel of a car. I knew lots of people back in the day having "fun" that caused harm to others. No different from the "high" one gets from a couple stiff drinks. 

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Why would you feel the need to tell her to get high in her own home and not behind a wheel. Would you say the same thing to a poster here who mentioned she was having a glass of wine or some other cocktail while typing here on the boards? My guess is no,  so why would feel the need to remind an adult to not smoke weed and drive? Just because you knew lots of people who got high.drank and drove doesn't mean this poster or anyone else here does. How condescending. 

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@Irshgrl31201 I feel the need to speak out about many things and don't need your permission. I thought someone saying publicly that they enjoyed getting high was an invitation for someone else who thinks it is not okay to speak their mind as well. 

People who get "silly" drunk and high and then drive are foolish and yet they do it every day, so what difference does it make if they get high from a different drug of choice and then make a foolish mistake., 

Condescending? I think not. Ironic that the entire thread is about a man who hosts a show about being politically incorrect, does things that offend people (some) and causes a lot of controversy and has a lot of support from posters, yet if a poster on the forum says something in the same vein, they get called out for it.

IMO marijuana does often lead to other hard core drugs and when someone admits to using it to get high, well, then I will speak my feelings as well. Don't  like it? Don't care. You don't need to police my opinions. 

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Telling an adult you don't even know that you hope she gets high at home and not behind a wheel is incredibly condescending, as if she doesn't have the faculties to make that decision herself. I don't care one bit if you are against pot or don't like it and don't want to smoke it yourself. I guarantee you that if someone is on a thread mentioning a cocktail they are having you would never in a million yrs say well I hope you don't get in the car and drive but for some reason you think that is appropriate to do because it is pot. Of course you are free to say what you like and I am free to object and tell you. I am not policing your opinions but I can absolutely call them ridiculous and hypocritical which they are. No adult here needs you telling them when to drive. PERIOD. Alcohol is the biggest gateway drug and it is legal but for some reason people don't feel the need to chastise someone having a drink the same way they would if they were taking a hit off of a joint which is ridiculous. 

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@Irshgrl31201 well, you are wrong. If someone on a forum did say that they enjoyed drinking cocktails to get high, I would say the same thing. So put your mind to rest about that.

 No sense in calling me a hypocrite. It only applies if I got drunk or high myself and then lectured someone else on how wrong it is.  

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Almost everyone who drinks, drinks to alter themselves in some way. Whether to "relax" or get a buzz or to get blitzed, weed is no different. You have people who do it to unwind just as they would with alcohol. It is hypocritical to think you have the right to tell someone who hits a joint not to get behind the wheel when there have been many threads where posters mention having a cocktail or two and I have never seen you pop up and chastise them to not drive and I doubt you would. It seems like many people do you think alcohol worse when that absolutely isn't the truth. We have people popping legal pain meds, xanax and drinking and there is still this ridiculous implication to those who smoke somehow being worse. 

[Say Nay]

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@60sgirl wrote:

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@terrier3 wrote:

I know a lot of professional people - lawyers, doctors, etc. who smoke weed recreationally. It doesn't affect their careers in the least.

I can't believe it's still an issue in 2016.

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and I know/knew a lot who are now dead. And if it doesn't affect careers, I wonder why 2 seasonal part time jobs I applied for and was offered the jobs have mandatory drug screenings before the formal offers are made. Screening for ALL drugs in your system including cigarettes.  

Why should people accept things they don't believe in just because some people think it shouldn't be an issue anymore? I wonder if all those health plans you sold through the ACA would continue to give coverage to people who smoke cigarettes, weed, drink alcohol every day.? If they told their doctors and it was noted in their medical records and the health insurance plan reviewed those records for some billing/coding record, would they renew their plan?

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YET, a potential employer cannot screen for alcohol because they cannot discriminate against individuals with alcoholism which is considered a disability under the ADA.