Re: Bernie Madoff Terminally Ill Seeks Compassiona... - Page 16

SeaMaiden · ‎03-10-2010

It would be cheaper to release him....at least the tax payers would not have to pay for his palliative e care and hospice care....let him go and He can take care of his medical expenses on his own. Good riddance.👋

Cakers3 · ‎06-17-2015

@novamc1 wrote:
@Cakers3

Back when the WorldCom & Ebbers debacle erupted, did you see the videos on TV of Bernie Ebbers at a drunken birthday toga party that he threw for his girlfriend (or maybe his wife, don't remember) on board a yacht?

He used company funds for all sorts of things that were not--to put it mildly--in the best interest of his company shareholders.

He deserved jail time as much as Bernie Madoff did, but I agree with anyone who says nobody's interests are being served by keeping these old disabled sick dudes in prison on the federal dime.

I say let them out and die somewhere else. They are still living off of money from taxpayers as long as we let them stay in there. Their victims should--perhaps--rejoice that they are being sent off for someone else to worry about, so victims don't have to think they're paying room and board for the bums.

After all, the useful lives of people like them are basically over. Why should we be stuck with the bill for caring for them?

Hundreds of applications for this type of prison release are filed every year, and only a relative few are ever approved. Prison officials don't like to do it.

There has been bipartisan legislative support for this type of early release in certain hopeless situations, primarily as a money-saving measure.

Prison officials reportedly object to the idea on philosophical grounds, but I suppose they agree it's worthwhile in certain situations.

The issue might never be resolved to everyone's satisfaction.

t.

@novamc1I kind of remember that one but I also remember Dennis Kozlowski (sp?) spending millions for his wife's 40th birthday on some Mediterranean island-where people were dressed like that.

He was the Tyco CEO and Tyco paid for about 1/2 of that party. He swindled milllions with a partner from Tyco. I think he is out of jail now.

"" Compassion is a verb."-Thich Nhat Hanh

Drythe · ‎07-09-2011

@Moonlady wrote:
What @Pearlee said.

It never ceases to amaze me how no subject is off limits when it comes to the usual suspects infecting threads with political comments.

@Moonlady

No idea who you consider the ‘usual suspects’ infecting threads.

I am amazed at the number of people who live in glass houses, and still throw stones.

"Animals are not my whole world, but they have made my world whole" ~ Roger Caras

JaneMarple · ‎05-23-2011

So many charities and schools had their money invested with Madoff, I don't have any sympathies for him at all. If he hastens his death by refusing treatment while in prison, that's his choice!

You Don't Own Me- Leslie Gore
(You don't Know) How Glad I Am- Nancy Wilson

novamc1 · ‎07-02-2015

@Cakers3

Ya know what? I think you're right, and I'm getting the most famous Chief Company Mismanagers all mixed up. Memory must really be going bad, when it comes to which bad guys in the corporate world are which..

What I do remember is how I was holding shares in WorldCom and saw them fall fast before I could bail out. Luckily, I wasn't heavily invested in any stock at that time, so we didn't miss any meals at our house.

Luckily, I also wasn't affected by the Tyco or Enron disasters.

Was having dinner one night about 10-12 years ago with friends. Another nationally-famous "financial adviser" crook was in the news at that time--don't remember who--and one of the dinner guests said he knew people who lost a ton of money by investing with that scammer.

Evil never gets put to rest, no matter how much money and time is spent on putting people in prison. Seems that every day, some new case becomes news that someday probably will be covered on the popular TV show "American Greed".

By the way, that's an interesting long-running TV show, narrated by Stacy Keach and aired on CNBC--in case anyone hasn't seen it yet.

cherry · ‎03-09-2010

Prison hospice programs offer an alternative to compassionate release and provide both inmate volunteers and psychiatrists with the unique opportunity to care for individuals in the criminal justice system. ... One challenge in prison hospice programs is pain management.Mar 1, 2018

cherry · ‎03-09-2010

reuters.com/article/us-california-aging-hospice/inside-the-prison-hospice-where-no-inmate-dies-alone-idUSKBN1JF1XC

Cakers3 · ‎06-17-2015

@novamc1 wrote:
@Cakers3

Ya know what? I think you're right, and I'm getting the most famous Chief Company Mismangers all mixed up. Memory must really be going bad, when it comes to which bad guys in the corporate world are which..

What I do remember is how I was holding shares in WorldCom and saw them fall fast before I could bail out. Luckily, I wasn't heavily invested in any stock at that time, so we didn't miss any meals at our house.

Luckily, I also wasn't affected by the Tyco or Enron disasters.

Was having dinner one night about 10-12 years ago with friends. Another nationally-famous "financial adviser" crook was in the news at that time--don't remember who--and one of the dinner guests said he knew people who lost a ton of money by investing with that scammer.

Evil never gets put to rest, no matter how much money and time is spent on putting people in prison. Seems that every day, some new case becomes news that someday probably will be covered on the popular TV show "American Greed".

By the way, that's an interesting long-running TV show, narrated by Stacy Keach and aired on CNBC--in case anyone hasn't seen it yet.

@novamc1There are just so many it becomes more difficult to keep them all straight.

"" Compassion is a verb."-Thich Nhat Hanh

San Antonio Gal · ‎05-18-2017

@occasionalrain wrote:
What he did is inexcusable but most of those who lost money were complicit and naive in believing the unbelievable return promised on their investments. Each of us are free to make choices and responsible for those choices.

I see nothing to be gained in keeping him in prison at taxpayer's expense.

This post sounds like it's the fault of the investors for placing their savings with him. Wow.

occasionalrain · ‎03-10-2010

@San Antonio Gal I wrote complicit meaning that, while not guilty, they chose to disregard red flags and invested anyway.

Some even invested all their savings. It is common sense 101 never to gamble more than you can afford to lose. It's akin to stranger danger warnings, some accept and some ignore..