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[on the bay]

@pure n simpl,

 I wasn't thinking of what you posted. Not a personal thing about what you wrote at all.

There are so many posts like this about people especially the young generation being lazy, entitled, wanting to start from the top on and on. And I'm sure there are some like that.

But I could name at least 100 individuals from a "sweeping generalization" that are just the opposite.

I have enjoyed your posts so please know I am not addressing you personally.

When it comes down to it, I would like to think all of us are fair and give people the benefit of the truth behind each persons circumstances. 

[Luvsmyfam]

you took the words right out of my mouth chessylady.in illinios,the extra 300.00 monthly added on to unemployment,ends sept 1

[on the bay]

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@Teddie wrote:

Oh @haddon9 , that is very sad about your mom! I’m so sorry! 

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@haddon9,

I am too. That is sad. I  bet that your mom knew you loved her without any cards, and must have known you were thinking of her!

[reiki604]

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@hyacinth003 wrote:

Some of this fallout is reportedly due to people not going back to work because they get equal or more of their pay with COVID benefits.

I suppose a few are afraid to go back, maybe.

I didn't read it, but saw an article on Wolfgang Puck saying he cannot get enough help for his restaurants.  A local pizza chain has said this also.

Hyacinth

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@hyacinth003 

My area is having that same problem, restaurants and fast food places remain closed due to a lack of workers, the signs on their doors state.

Why work when they can sit home and receive the same amount of 'pay'?

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Could you live on $300 per week? That's all they get and it certainly doen't pay the mortgage or rent.

Don't judge. There are many reasons and I noted a couple in my other post. 

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$300 a week is the Federal benefit, add that to the state benefit.

In NJ the maximum benefit is around $650, I understand that most people aren't going to be eligible for that amount but if you could sit home and collect $950 a week would you go to work?

A lot of them may be breaking even when you take into account, no car fare, no commuting, no dry cleaner bills, coffee or lunch costs.

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Anyone who is making the top IU amount are not the people not going back to work. It's the one's who cannot earn a living wage or get above the poverty level  on minimum wage. Those companies that raise their offered salaried can and are getting workers. If a company's business plan is to profit off the backs of the poor needs to make a new business plan.

[decaf]

@on the bay  We may not agree on this but that's fine.  Like I said earlier , I know of three individuals in their thirties who can work but don't want to/refuse to work. 

Also, my son owns a retail business for the last 15 year and through good economic times and bad ones, this has been the most difficult part of running his business.  Not just keeping employees either.  They don't show up for work, they don't even call out.  They just show up again when they "feel better."  It's impossible to schedule shifts and run a business like that.

I'm just relating people and circumstances I know well.  I didn't make this up and other people have told me they know people who just don't want to work or don't have reasonable expectations about work.  It's called a poor work ethic.

[sometimesQVCaddict]

Speaking from very personal first hand knowledge I can say that covid unemployment was NOT equal to my pre-pandemic income. I had to go on it a few months last year. It took almost 3 months to get my first payment (with ZERO income those months) & wasn't what I was making before. I'm grateful for the help received & haven't used it this year at all. Thankfully my business has bounced back 80-90%. I'm self employed.

Until you walk in those shoes, passing judgment about strangers does you no favors. Plus if you personally never had any change in your income last year or this year (or if you are supported by a spouse). People take advantage of everything-true- but don't lump everyone who was/is on benefits with the bad seeds.

I've never been on unemployment before & hope to never again. However I was extremely thankful for the help & have no shame in accepting the assistance when I had no money coming in nor anyone supporting me.

[CrazyDaisy]

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@Luvsmyfam wrote:

you took the words right out of my mouth chessylady.in illinios,the extra 300.00 monthly added on to unemployment,ends sept 1

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In Ohio it ends June 30th.  It is amazing the number of applications we have received in the last week or so for jobs that pay $18 per hour and tons of overtime available no experience necessary.  Jobs have been posted for months with no applicants.

[on the bay]

I am realizing that we are talking about two different groups of people and maybe some in between.

Yes, there are many people who feel "entitled," don't want to work, want the highest paying job or not at all. I suspect they have a wealthy family

and not much worry or are criminals or something.

Then there are those who truly work so hard and are honest and do try their best to support themselves and their families.

What bothers me is when it seems so many judge others who have never been in that situation. They may have never had to worry about

being on the wrong side of the tracks.

I've been on both and being really poor teaches you a lot about yourself and I remember being so grateful for so many things. But also grateful and humbled when we had more.

I admire so much my children's generation and younger who are good people trying to also help others and working hard. Trying to make things better especially after they succeed. 

And I feel so bad for those who are struggling so hard every day and then maybe get judged from especially those who have never had to know what it is like-the fear of no food, or eviction, while still doing all they can to keep their head above water.

Or saying well we made it so everyone else can too. I've realized it doesn't always work that way for so many reasons.

[reiki604]

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@Luvsmyfam wrote:

you took the words right out of my mouth chessylady.in illinios,the extra 300.00 monthly added on to unemployment,ends sept 1

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In Ohio it ends June 30th.  It is amazing the number of applications we have received in the last week or so for jobs that pay $18 per hour and tons of overtime available no experience necessary.  Jobs have been posted for months with no applicants.

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$18/ hour is a big jump from the Federal  minimum wage of $7.25/hour. Good to see your employer is not exploiting their workers. I just wonder if it includes benefits like health insurance.

[decaf]

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@on the bay wrote:

I am realizing that we are talking about two different groups of people and maybe some in between.

Yes, there are many people who feel "entitled," don't want to work, want the highest paying job or not at all. I suspect they have a wealthy family

and not much worry or are criminals or something.

Then there are those who truly work so hard and are honest and do try their best to support themselves and their families.

What bothers me is when it seems so many judge others who have never been in that situation. They may have never had to worry about

being on the wrong side of the tracks.

I've been on both and being really poor teaches you a lot about yourself and I remember being so grateful for so many things. But also grateful and humbled when we had more.

I admire so much my children's generation and younger who are good people trying to also help others and working hard. Trying to make things better especially after they succeed. 

And I feel so bad for those who are struggling so hard every day and then maybe get judged from especially those who have never had to know what it is like-the fear of no food, or eviction, while still doing all they can to keep their head above water.

Or saying well we made it so everyone else can too. I've realized it doesn't always work that way for so many reasons.

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This is not a class, wealth or crime issue, it's a generational issue.  There's plenty of articles online, also books about this, Gen Y and Gen X, the entitled generations.