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[shoekitty]

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@Enufstuff wrote:

@shoekitty   I remember when you were posting about your grand daughter's missing friend. That was so sad and something that she will never forget.

  I can't imagine how parents can even deal with such a thing, a horrific nightmare that you never wake up from.

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@Enufstuff   Thanks.  I can't believe it, but the thread is still around or part of it.  Yes, everything changes for the family and friends.  Seeing my granddaughter suffer was hard on me, so the grief is passed on. Everyone shares in it. 

[Etoile308]

Such a sad situation and unlikely all details will ever be known. To me that just compounds the suffering for the loved ones.

The indiscretions of youth. I wonder if most of us didn't fall prey to it at some point, over some thing, and yet were fortunate to come out okay. 

[Karie2022]

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@Cakers3 wrote:

Natalie was with Joran but also the Kalpoe brothers were involved.  All three had been arrested several times but released. 

Joran's father had influence in Aruba.

This case will never be officially solved.

I believe Natalie's drink was drugged and she either died from a reaction and/or resisted sexual assault. The Kalpoe brothers referred her as dressing and acting like a s*ut. As though they had high morals.

Joran is a deeply disturbed individual, playing games with Beth Holloway and also murdered Stephanie Ramirez in Peru 

I don't believe the Holloway case and Sudiksha Konanki's disappearance are the same.

 I believe Sudiksha drowned and was most likely alcohol impaired.

I do hope there will not be a rush to judgement for Joshua Ribi.

He was initially interviewed without counsel and an interpreter.

He may have given some inconsistencies but not severe enough to warrant deception as Joran did.

Hungover and scared leads to distorted memory.

This young woman is most likely deceased. I hope her body will be found so her parents can properly bury her.

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Totally agree; my gut says she drowned and was not murdered. I think this kid had a few different stories because he was drunk and couldn't remember. So sad and devastating for the family. I have two in college and yes they are considered adults by law, but I would be hard pressed to let them go out of the country for spring break. Especially since we hold the purse strings. 

[skatting44]

  Nothing will change in  these scenarios of  senseless  deaths of young people  till they put their safety first above  all this " party " glamour attitude. When I was a teen and young adult  back in the late 60's  & 1970's we had a girl pack to look out for one another.

[Wsmom]

Agree that I think it was probably a drowning but not only should we be working on our girls with rules about sticking together and not going off alone with a boy and ending up in this kind of situation, but also the boys to stick together and not go off alone with a girl so they don't end up in a situation like he is.

As far as doing stupid things as a kid, I certainly had my moments.  I shudder when I think of some of the things.  And it was not ignorance, I certainly knew better.  Kids make bad decisions sometimes.

[LavernLuvsShoes]

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@Wsmom wrote:

... Kids make bad decisions sometimes.

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Especially when heavy drinking is involved. 

[occasionalrain]

The student's parents are requesting that she be declared dead.

[Cakers3]

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@occasionalrain wrote:

The student's parents are requesting that she be declared dead.

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@occasionalrain If they are Hindu they believe this action will release her soul to  Braham who can represent eternal consciousness.  It could be a religious factor.

The parents believe all has been done to find their daughter and also accept Joshua's version of that night 

[goldensrbest]

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@Cakers3 wrote:

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@occasionalrain wrote:

The student's parents are requesting that she be declared dead.

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@occasionalrain If they are Hindu they believe this action will release her soul to  Braham who can represent eternal consciousness.  It could be a religious factor.

The parents believe all has been done to find their daughter and also accept Joshua's version of that night 

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I heard on the news this morning,it also could mean a wrongful death cause,to the resort,but i can't see  it was their fault.

[Wsmom]

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@LavernLuvsShoes wrote:

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@Wsmom wrote:

... Kids make bad decisions sometimes.

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Especially when heavy drinking is involved. 

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I can't even blame that, @LavernLuvsShoes . My worst decisions I was perfectly sober and knew not to do it.  Putting myself in an unsafe circumstance.   Fortunatey I lived to talk about it.