@Moonchilde wrote:
@Mominohio wrote:
@SeaMaiden wrote:
No. Who in their right mind DISCUSSES politics. It is always just a scream fest that ends with bad feelings. Best to keep politics and religion at home behind closed doors.
This is an archaic and outdated point of view.
Politics have always been important, and are more so now than ever.
I can see people wanting to come to a place that is free of that type of discussion, but to leave it totally out of one's life entirely is socially irresponsible.
Debate and various view points are essential to the process, and yes, it does get rather ugly sometimes, but that is where one gets to really know the candidate, their supporters, the issues and what is really going on in the world.
Head in the sand syndrome is not beneficial to the nation or the individual.
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Just because one chooses not to have conversations about politics with others (especially in public with people they don't know) does not mean they have their head in the sand or don't know what's going on.
People read. They watch TV and listen to the radio. They make up their own minds what they believe and who they want to vote for.
To me, those who insist that public debate is "necessary" and that those who disagree are not sufficiently or properly informed, just mean if *they* could only browbeat you with *their* choice until you caved, the world would be a better place, all would be right in *their* political world, etc.
Just as there religious evangelists, there are political evangelists. I choose to avoid both. Not because I "don't want to know" and am hiding my head in the sand (from *their* POV), but because I'm an intelligent adult who reads, watches and listens to what is going on around me, and is capable of making my own decisions.
Those who insist that political discussions are necessary and MUST be had anywhere and everywhere are just protecting and promoting their own personal soap box. I'm not impressed.
Original post here (SeaMadien) dismisses the discussing of politics and makes it apparent that there is something wrong with doing so in any capacity. States that one is not in their right mind, and it can't be done in a civilized manner.
Those points are just not valid. Perhaps the conversations here often spiral into personal attacks, but that is not the nature of political or religious discussions among people of character and true interest in the topics. What usually happens is that whenever an opposite view is offered up, the lines are drawn, the names are called, the intimidation begins. And it is usually the same few who start it when the opposing view is introduced. There is a kind of gang that piles on, and the fun begins. And it certainly isn't reserved for politics.
Just because some people don't want to participate in a discussion of a particular nature, doesn't give them the right to demean or take that right away from others for doing so (not speaking of Q's right to not allow a topic on their forums, that is their right of course, but I'm talking about people here who think that because they don't want to, or are incapable of an intelligent discussion or debate on a topic, no one should find value or interest in it).
The best things we learn are from experience and from interactions with other people, including discussions and debates. Not everything can be learned from just reading and watching TV etc. Human interaction and the views and ideas of others, shared, debated, even heatedly and in less than perfect manner, are more valuable than some here want to give credit to.
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