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[skatting44]

    Well, then a stylist should post an appropriate  price for their service . If a grocer pays xyz for an orange  then he sells it at a higher cost to the customer and no tip involved .

Anyone who works has expenses to work such as car insurance , gas , tolls,  automobile oil changes & tune ups Nurses pay for their  bi yearly  license along with mandated continuing education hours to practice as a nurse, so hair stylists aren't the only people with expenses to work.  They just need to charge an appropriate rate  for their services . In my area hair stylists charges abt $100 an hour .

[JeanLouiseFinch]

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@skatting44 wrote:

    Well, then a stylist should post an appropriate  price for their service . If a grocer pays xyz for an orange  then he sells it at a higher cost to the customer and no tip involved .

Anyone who works has expenses to work such as car insurance , gas , tolls,  automobile oil changes & tune ups Nurses pay for their  bi yearly  license along with mandated continuing education hours to practice as a nurse, so hair stylists aren't the only people with expenses to work.  They just need to charge an appropriate rate  for their services . In my area hair stylists charges abt $100 an hour .

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@skatting44 -  A hairstylist isn't someone who wandered into a salon one day because they thought it would be fun to play with scissors and chemicals.  Like a nurse, stylists also have continuing ed classes and license renewals.  Like a nurse, they are educated and professionally trained in anatomy, chemistry, sanitation, treatments, cutting techniques, coloring techniques, styling, how to correct what someone messes up at home, etc. and that education and expertise is worth what the market will bear.  Salons do post their prices, BTW.

Would you ever have the gall to tell a nurse or a dental hygienist they are overpaid?  No? Why not?  Because they're deemed to work in a more important setting and do more important work?  You should be embarrassed but I doubt you are.  

As an aside, we have both a nurse and a hairstylist in our family.  Each is excellent in their own field but neither can do what the other does.

[shoekitty]

@Tinkrbl44   I always tip the stylist that has stylists working for them.  Some salons (usually of a higher end) are sometimes  willing to train the "plebes"....., tips only. It depends. Usually stylist fresh out of school are often hired for minimum wages in places like Great clips and such to work way up.  Some stylists that are gifted, and have great  potential, and are scouted out.   Some are offered internships in salons that will offer a great career and money. I was scouted out and selected by Yosh in 1974.  He was like Sassoon, but in Bay Area.  The job was intern, 2 years, no pay .  The difference was a more high end career.  I didn't take the offer because  I couldn't intern 2 years without pay.  I also didn't realize the potential of working ip with Yosh. But,  I went on to do paid platform, while I was doing my other career.   Today interns are trained by top stylists, in teaching salons. It is worth it, if you can do it. So protocol is , you hand tips to your stylist. They divide up. . But you can slip the Pleb a couple bucks while in shampoo chair if you like. Lunch money!  Often the trainees go from stylist to stylist depending on what one of stylist is doing that day. Maybe a difficult highlight.  Maybe a corrective color, a highlight on extra long thick hair, etc. and of course sweeping floors, stocking, shampooing in between.   When owner feels they are qualified to do clients, they ease them out slowly. 

[ninjawife]

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

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@SamBrown wrote:

If a hairdresser rents a chair at a salon, do you tip?  I do tip, but I really feel like they own their own business and should not be tipped.  

I do it begrudgingly.  

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@SamBrown 

OF COURSE I tip a stylist who rents a chair in a salon.

IMO, the business owner who shouldn't be tipped is the person who has several stylists working for them in that salon.  

Any stylist who is a "one-man band" should be tipped generously.  

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@Tinkrbl44 I don't tip my stylist who works out of her home.  I used to see her in a salon before she decided to work from home and I tipped her 20% for her services but now that she owns her own business she is able to set the prices that cover her overhead.  Her prices are more expensive than what I was paying to see her in a salon so again I don't feel the need to tip her. 

[Blondie59]

My family thinks I tip too much.  We recently had extensive yard work done. Tearing out bushes, plants, grass and planting other things.  It was several thousand dollars, but when it was done, we tipped each of the workers $50.  It was smoky and just not fun to be working outside last week. I believe in tipping the person who did the job, whether it is the person wiping down your car after going through the car wash, a delivery of food or flowers or the guys delivering an appliance without nicking baseboards or paint. 

I always add a tip to the total when I have flowers sent; sometimes the recipient doesn't  think to do it.  

I have been seeing the same stylist for years, I want her to know I am appreciative of what she does for me.

[shoekitty]

@Blondie59  I think your generous tip to workers is highly appreciated .  Sometimes what we think is a small courtesy, means more to the receiver than we think.  I know when I was working on my career thing, I would cocktail. Those tips meant so much.  In those days it was a quarter a drink tip isially. But wow, once someone left a dollar and I was beyond excited. My tips then were 15-20 a night !  But then that a weeks groceries almost! Some jobs are just hard. Construction and digging holes in the heat and farm work always have my heart. I tipped my workers weekly. As the project carried on 2 1/2 months. Those guys worked from 7:30 to 4 in over 100 degree, full sun!!   They always went the extra mile. Best crew I ever had here. my grands work in the service industry, while finishing college. I can't tell you how excited they get with a nice tip. They do appreciate it. 

[RespectLife]

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@skatting44 wrote:

  How abt tipping the loyal customer who  for years  provide business  & pay the hair dresser whatever amount they request.

 My hair stylist  who works from her home gets $220 from me for allover color & cut & toner . How does that comapre to others ?

How abt tipping nurses who provide life saving care ?

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@skatting44 

Usually employees such as food service, renters etc make under minimum or a sustainable wage.  They rely on their tips to bring them closer to what a living wage is.

Nurses, teachers and other admirable professions ARE paid full salaries.

[skatting44]

   @JeanLouiseFinch 

    Your umbrage is out of line with what I said .

  I  was comparing oranges to oranges .

  Both professions  one must pay for formal education, both must pay for  a license ( nurses now bi yearly  @ $165 )  along with background check fees  and  pay for mandatory continuing education hours .

 Registered Nurse pay ranges

• 75th Percentile: ~$48.60 per hour

• Top 90% (Highly Experienced): $62.21+ per hour

 I said that hair stylists

" They just need to charge an appropriate rate  for their services . 

By that I meant  taking in consideration  of their business expenses , but doesn't everyone who has a job  have  expenses to  beable to work ?

In my area hair stylists charges abt $100 an hour ."

 So, is that  $100 an hour enough for a stylist to charge ?

[skatting44]

  @RespectLife 

 Then  work on changing  state laws or whatever is needs so they are paid minimum wage

[RespectLife]

@skatting44 

I guess it would just be easier and less stressful for you to do your own hair then.

None of us are forced to go to salons, eat at restaurants, have work done on our homes etc.  

None of us are forced to tip, but I think the majority opinion here is that we would when appropriate.

Kind people like to show appreciation for good services rendered and that is what a tip signifies.  It should never be done begrudingly.  It should be a willing act of appreciation and kindness, not forced.