Community Chat

[Nancy Drew]

So we can bomb them and kill them but not take down their tweets. That doesn't make sense.....

[dooBdoo]

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@SahmIam wrote:

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@Anniecamp wrote:

The government can't do it.  It's considered violating people's "rights".  We've pretty well tied the gov't's hands regarding being able to track them.

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Exactly. People tend to forget this. You got what we wanted, right? Our rights trump our safety You can't have it both ways.

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That's exactly the problem.  Look at all the uproar about phone calls, email message, etc., being intercepted or reviewed, all the calls to action to stop our government from "snooping" on us.  They're da--ed if they do and da--ed if they don't.

In addition, much of the terrorist groups' electronic exchanges now are going underground, away from the open media like Twitter and into encrypted apps or the dark web.  This issue lends itself to cheap shots against our government but technically and legally is not nearly as easy as people want to make it seem.

[esmeraldagooch]

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@Smaug wrote:

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@esmeraldagooch wrote:

It must be feeling generous because of the holiday season.  Not hacking banks and shutting down Visa?

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Am I misunderstanding you or are you against what Anonymous has accomplished in removing these tweets? 

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Have you read the quote,  The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

Or perhaps this:  What is Edward Snowden, a Traitor or Patriot?

[Marp]

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@jobran wrote:

They have already taken down over 5,500 isis tweets.  They are doing more in seconds than our people in power........ JMO

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Individuals or private groups are not constrained by freedom of speech protections.  The government is and it is a very fine line when it comes to suppressing speech, even inflammatory or recruiting tweets.

[Say Nay]

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@esmeraldagooch wrote:

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@Smaug wrote:

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@esmeraldagooch wrote:

It must be feeling generous because of the holiday season.  Not hacking banks and shutting down Visa?

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Am I misunderstanding you or are you against what Anonymous has accomplished in removing these tweets? 

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Have you read the quote,  The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

Or perhaps this:  What is Edward Snowden, a Traitor or Patriot?

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In the case of Syria the situation is so convoluted the enemy of my enemy can still be an enemy. Re. Snowden... perhaps he cannot be or should not be categorized as either. 

[dooBdoo]

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@Smaug wrote:

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@esmeraldagooch wrote:

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@Smaug wrote:

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@esmeraldagooch wrote:

It must be feeling generous because of the holiday season.  Not hacking banks and shutting down Visa?

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Am I misunderstanding you or are you against what Anonymous has accomplished in removing these tweets? 

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Have you read the quote,  The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

Or perhaps this:  What is Edward Snowden, a Traitor or Patriot?

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In the case of Syria the situation is so convoluted the enemy of my enemy can still be an enemy. Re. Snowden... perhaps he cannot be or should not be categorized as either. 

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Agree.  The platitude sounds simple, but identifying "the enemy" sometimes is quite subjective.

[jaxs mom]

yes, taking down their tweets, that's a major accomplishment in stopping them. Not. 

[Melania]

Snowden has made this situation worse. He certainly isn't one to revere. He's a coward lowlife.

[Mominohio]

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@Melania wrote:

Snowden has made this situation worse. He certainly isn't one to revere. He's a coward lowlife.

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Perhaps it takes someone doing something wrong or bad or dangerous or illegal, to wake people up, to make them see the vulnerability in things, to see the lack of security, the lack of ability of protecting us, etc. Maybe what could happen without the exposure and those who failed to do their jobs, would be far worse in the long run. 

Every one, and every organization needs to be kept on their toes. 

[occasionalrain]

I'd rather be free than safe.