Re: American that joined isis

Plaid Pants2 · ‎03-14-2015

Free speech doesn't protect the speech that you like.

It protects the speech that you don't like.

I may not like what someone is saying, but I'll fight for their right to say it.

Puzzle Piece · ‎06-29-2010

Remove his citizenship and give him back to ISIS or the Taliban.

Never Forget the Native American Indian Holocaust

faeriemoon · ‎03-14-2010

@Plaid Pants2 wrote:
Free speech doesn't protect the speech that you like.

It protects the speech that you don't like.

I may not like what someone is saying, but I'll fight for their right to say it.

He did more than "speak"; he joined.

~What a terrible era in which idiots govern the blind.~ William Shakespeare

Topaz Gem · ‎03-10-2010

@faeriemoon wrote:
@Plaid Pants2 wrote:
Free speech doesn't protect the speech that you like.

It protects the speech that you don't like.

I may not like what someone is saying, but I'll fight for their right to say it.
He did more than "speak"; he joined.

Exactly.

"Summer afternoon-summer afternoon; to me those have always been the two most beautiful words in the English language." ~Henry James

goldensrbest · ‎03-10-2010

@faeriemoon wrote:
@Plaid Pants2 wrote:
Free speech doesn't protect the speech that you like.

It protects the speech that you don't like.

I may not like what someone is saying, but I'll fight for their right to say it.
He did more than "speak"; he joined.

Correct, he joined the enemy to us all ,in our nation.They kill so many , and he planned on doing the same.

When you lose some one you L~O~V~E, that Memory of them, becomes a TREASURE.

nomless · ‎03-10-2010

@Plaid Pants2 wrote:
Free speech doesn't protect the speech that you like.

It protects the speech that you don't like.

I may not like what someone is saying, but I'll fight for their right to say it.

He was captured on a battlefield. IMO, fighting with the purpose of killing others goes far beyond free speech.

AngusandBuddhasMom · ‎03-10-2010

@nomless wrote:
@Plaid Pants2 wrote:
Free speech doesn't protect the speech that you like.

It protects the speech that you don't like.

I may not like what someone is saying, but I'll fight for their right to say it.

He was captured on a battlefield. IMO, fighting with the purpose of killing others goes far beyond free speech.

He surrendered was not captured and yes that is important distinction. Plus he may never face an American Court or Tribunal as he legally is in Iraq's hands and we would have to request that he be turned over. They have a sovereign right to deny that and keep him. We can question him and deal with him there but he may never see US soil again.

SXMGirl · ‎07-07-2010

I am so glad that I am not one of those who has to make a decision on this young man, because there are so many layers to this story.

What I do know is that there are many young people who truly have no idea what ISIS really is. If they haven't seen the horrendous videos, and we probably think that they must have, then ISIS could seem exciting to them. It is an opportunity to travel to another country and meet new people, just like he apparently met a girl. They don't realize that ISIS is just the worst sort of gang and cult. Once in, it is almost impossible to get out alive. It is very possible that he is alive so that he could come back and prepare for attacks in our country.

This young man's father was outraged that his son was being accused of joining ISIS and said there was no way that he did so. We now know that this was untrue.

The problem with putting him in a regular prison is that he will be exposed to more of the ISIS propaganda and he seems very easily influenced and very immature for a 26 year old. There is a large contingent in our prisons today that have become indoctrinated. The inmates can spin a story that will make him question whether he should have "escaped." Unless they are going to put him in a maximum security prison with limited access to other prisoners, I don't see that working.

I imagine that he will undergo many psychological tests as well as polygraphs. Not only will his background be investigated thoroughly, but so will the background of all of his family members, friends, employers, and anyone who he had frequent contact with. More than likely, there is much more to this story.

I hope that the truth can be sorted out and that there is not only a fair outcome for this young man if indeed he just made a serious mistake, but that we do not see any repurcussions because he was really a traitor. Again, I am glad that I am not responsible to determine any of this.

The next time that I hear salt and ice together, it better be in a margarita!

faeriemoon · ‎03-14-2010

I do not believe a 26 year old doesn't know that it's a bad decision to join Isis.

I mean, come on...

~What a terrible era in which idiots govern the blind.~ William Shakespeare

Perkup · ‎03-09-2010

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@chrystaltree wrote:
@Perkup wrote:
Since he has joined with a group that espouses death to America and Americans, it is clear that he has branded himself as a traitor to his country. That being said, he should lose his citizenship, along with all it's privileges and rights. He should not be allowed to return to this country for any reason. If he is still in this country, he should be permanently imprisoned as he presents a clear and present danger to our citizens.

Really? You want to imprison someone for speech? That sounds pretty Isis-like to me...lol It's certainly Un-American. Maybe you should put yourself in prison....lol

If I turned against my country and my fellow Americans, and supported a group whose main purpose in life was to destroy my country, me and those I love, I would expect to be treated as a traitor. THIS IS NOT ABOUT FREE SPEECH!! It's about joining a radical group of terrorists, who are committed to murder and main those human beings who do not bow to their "religious" concepts,. I would have no right to enjoy what America has to offer, and should be exiled to spend my life with others who would destroy us, or should be imprisoned if I still reside here. Only a firm stand against Isis can ever be effective - they want to kill you. They do not want your "understanding". How can you not understand this?