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[tends2dogs]

Gee, on the television ads, the workers look so happy ....... smiling and singing the praises of working at Amazon.  Even their kids want to grow up and work there.  

[Cakers3]

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@Isobel Archer wrote:

Robots are interesting.  I've been playing bridge online with them and they are very good.

Maybe you are on to something about their replacing workers who don't want to work.

Maybe even - since according to the Chicago Tribune, teachers unions are now complaining about teaching online (too much work, too stressful, shouldn't have to be answering all the questions students and parents have, etc. etc. etc.) - robots could replace them too.

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@Isobel Archer   As much as I appreciate your tongue-in-cheek post, I find it very troubling that teachers would expect to be paid and not work.

[Cakers3]

The warehouse with medical assistance due to no A/C was in PA and that happened in 2011.  After being publicly shamed for the working conditions in that warehouse, Amazon spent the $ (and rightfully so) to retrofit that warehouse and others.

I cannot believe how some hang onto a story from 2011 and present it as a current issue.

I am not a fan of Amazon, not by a long shot; but let's stay focused.

[Cakers3]

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@tansy wrote:

A universal base pay is in our future.  Robots are better suited for many industries.  

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@tansyUBI's have been discussed since the 1960's.

Experimental programs have, for the most part, failed.

It is an interesting topic but unfortunately one we won't be allowed to discuss here.

[Spurt]

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@Cakers3 wrote:

The warehouse with medical assistance due to no A/C was in PA and that happened in 2011.  After being publicly shamed for the working conditions in that warehouse, Amazon spent the $ (and rightfully so) to retrofit that warehouse and others.

I cannot believe how some hang onto a story from 2011 and present it as a current issue.

I am not a fan of Amazon, not by a long shot; but let's stay focused.

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@Cakers3  @Reiki604

This Amazon story I posted came out on SUNDAY August 2, 2020. 

So you said they took care of issues in 2011 ----so what are these stories---??????

And this is from JUNE 25,2020...from the Express/News....

Amazon workers in San Antonio worry as COVID-19 cases rise

Madison Iszler June 25, 2020 Updated: June 25, 2020 8:34 a.m. 

The number of COVID-19 cases at Amazon warehouses in San Antonio is rising, the safety precautions aren't thorough, and the facility isn't air-conditioned.

.Not only PA .....Chicago, Portland and Minnesota too.....

Jul 12, 2019 - Amazon kicks off the two-day sales extravaganza known as Prime Day on ... All said there was no air conditioning on the main warehouse floor ...

July 16, 2019 / Terry Miller

The job is stressful, thirsty, dangerous, and dehumanizing, writes one Amazon warehouse worker. Early this morning 30 workers in a Chicago warehouse marched on their employer to demand air conditioning. 

[Lipstickdiva]

Amazon has never been known to treat their employees particularly well.  We always see posts about WM being so awful but never anything about Amazon, although it's highly publicized.  

[Spurt]

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@Lipstickdiva wrote:

Amazon has never been known to treat their employees particularly well.  We always see posts about WM being so awful but never anything about Amazon, although it's highly publicized.  

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@Lipstickdiva 

I guess as long as people love their Prime delivery and get their packages quickly Amazon gets a pass...go figure.  

And you are right, Walmart gets no mercy and is regularly trashed..... In Walmart's defense I think it has to do with store Managers....in my city....there's some stores that are the pits and in in the nice part of town too, BUT other Walmarts are nice, clean stores and are well stocked, and the employees are professional and polite...And did make some changes regarding pay, career paths, promotions etc....

[Cakers3]

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@Spurt wrote:

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@Cakers3 wrote:

The warehouse with medical assistance due to no A/C was in PA and that happened in 2011.  After being publicly shamed for the working conditions in that warehouse, Amazon spent the $ (and rightfully so) to retrofit that warehouse and others.

I cannot believe how some hang onto a story from 2011 and present it as a current issue.

I am not a fan of Amazon, not by a long shot; but let's stay focused.

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@Cakers3  @Reiki604

This Amazon story I posted came out on SUNDAY August 2, 2020. 

So you said they took care of issues in 2011 ----so what are these stories---??????

And this is from JUNE 25,2020...from the Express/News....

Amazon workers in San Antonio worry as COVID-19 cases rise

Madison Iszler June 25, 2020 Updated: June 25, 2020 8:34 a.m. 

The number of COVID-19 cases at Amazon warehouses in San Antonio is rising, the safety precautions aren't thorough, and the facility isn't air-conditioned.

.Not only PA .....Chicago, Portland and Minnesota too.....

Jul 12, 2019 - Amazon kicks off the two-day sales extravaganza known as Prime Day on ... All said there was no air conditioning on the main warehouse floor ...

July 16, 2019 / Terry Miller

The job is stressful, thirsty, dangerous, and dehumanizing, writes one Amazon warehouse worker. Early this morning 30 workers in a Chicago warehouse marched on their employer to demand air conditioning. 

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@Spurt   I am referring to the post that claims medical personnel are on stand-by at Amazon warehouses.  THAT story dates back to 2011.  The conditions were horrid at THAT facility and Amazon was shamed, rightfully so.  In turn, they retrofitted THAT facility with A/C.

Again, this was in PA in 2011.

The post I responded to claimed that ambulances are on stand-by at Amazon warehouses. 

I am well aware of San Antone and New Braunfels and I'm sure it's hot as Hades there.

You mistook my response as responding to you and it wasn't. 

hth

[Porcelain]

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@Kachina624 wrote:

@Spurt   Maybe he resembled and was easily confused with his robotic co-worker?

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Okay that was pretty funny. I did say the most effective workers were indistinguishable from robots. You know how I meant it. But I can imagine the scene:

"Robby? When is your lunch break today?"

"I'm Hal, not Robby. You meant a different robot."

"Oh sorry, you guys are so indistinguishable!"

[hckynut]

@Porcelain 

Sure, just what we need, fewer jobs. Guess you missed the fact that over 75,000 factories have closed in the USA and also moved to other countries. How many jobs do you suppose were lost when they left? 

And I have seen that Amazon workers are paid a minimum of $15 per hour. Whatever their working conditions. I can assure you they are less dangerous, or a bigger health risk than the factory I worked for over 30 years. And $15 an hour, would have been $3 an hour more than I made after 30 years.

Unlike the claimed risks now of unseen droplets floating in the air, the hazards I worked in were very visible, and limited you sight of big machines in the distance. There were no masks, and the visible fumes were that of Polyvinyl Chloride, a known cancer causing agent.

3 of my close co-workers died of stomach types of cancer. Some jobs are more dangerous than others, and I had a choice, as do those working for Amazon. The option to strike with unions or protests without a union are still a good way to get changes.

But for someone to state "those jobs should be done by robots"?  I am left to think you have no idea what it is like to work in a BIG company's factory, I however have 33 years.

hckynut(john)