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@SharkE wrote:

Exactly ! People just won't be responsible. Plain and simple. To busy tending to their own needs.  Like yrs. ago somebody went thru drive thru spilled hot coffee in their lap and wanted to sue. Always push the blame on others and try to get rich.

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@SharkE Sadly shark BOTH responsibility and commmon sense are no longer present in todays society...

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@NativeJax wrote:
23 gator deaths in Florida since 1948....2015 Florida had 105 million tourists..... I don't think dad used the best judgment but I do not blame him nor do I blame Disney. The son had a greater chance of being struck by lightening than being grabbed by a gator. Florida has an average of 3500 lightening strikes per day and between 5-10 deaths per year from it.

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Disney is liable in this case and it will be a hard sell to find no culpability.

I feel so bad for this family; it's likely this would not have happened if proper warnings were posted. 

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@gardenman:

I just said the very same thing. My 22 year old son has said to me on more than one occasion...as I do....warn him about gators and swimming in the creek...mom, if you die from an alligator attack...it was surely your time to go. I do warn my child of this danger.

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@Noel7 wrote:

I'm guessing most people who think Disney bears no blame at all have no children, or at least never raised any children.

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@Noel7  I think they are BOTH responsible---Disney-for NOT posting a sign clearly stating the danger---either DO NOT ENTER THE WATER  or WATCH FOR GATORS!, and the Parents for letting their child wade in the water....if I saw a sign NO SWIMMING I would think there are either chemicals put in the water making it unsafe, or the water was polluted perhaps???  I would've been concerned as to why the sign was posted in the first place!!! 

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@Rileyx wrote:

Just read where someone filming the area before this incident happened, had this sign in the video. The sheriff said the boy was the only one in the water. 

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Do you remember where you saw this? TIA.

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@WSfan wrote:

I have been to WDW on more than one occasion. I have raised children, and successfully, I might add. Am I the perfect parent? No, but when we came upon warning signs, we heeded them, and still do. They are put there for your own good. If having common sense is being 'smart', then so be it, and I take that as a complement. We live in a suit happy society. Anything and everything that goes wrong to us is someone else's fault but ours and we're willing to sue for millions. Millions is not going to bring this little boy back. Some posters here have something against Disney just because they are a huge, successful company. I'm sure that Disney feels horrible about this also. They can put up warning signs by the hundreds (they probably do), and if visitors are not going to read and obey them, then who's fault is that? In my book, not Disney's. From what I have read, this is a man-made lagoon that is connected to canals, which are connected to more waterways that alligators can and do have access to. WDW and the surrounding land that it's on (and there's a lot of it) apparently is not a walled off area to wildlife. People need to be responsible for their own actions, have some forethought, and obey what they are told to do, verbally or by signs.

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It is well understood by those who proclaim to have "common sense" that others don't agree with your version of it.  Yes, in our society people have to accept responsibility for their own actions.  This includes management at WDW.

I have been to Florida countless times (never at the swanky Floridian) and never gave much thought to Alligators while there.  In the face of these out of control lawsuits so many people complain about, wouldn't it be behoove us to put into place the kinds of practices that would minimize our liability?  I think so.  There are grown people who know full well that driving while distracted is frowned up, yet they do it.  This is the human condition.

WDW could have protected itself a little better by simply providing explicit and clear signage for those who simply don't "get it." The "just in case" could have worked as well.  It's prudent to leave no room for error or ambiguity in the face of lawsuit America.  They didn't do enough.  Of course, now they will.  We live in a "reactive society" and not a pro active one.  As a result of this new procedures will be put into place so as to prevent something like this from ever happening again.  

Unfortunately, there are some who you must SPELL IT OUT FOR THEM.  If that's all it takes how much could it cost?

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@itiswhatitis

" There are grown people who know full well that driving while distracted is frowned up, yet they do it.  This is the human condition."

And if these distracted drivers get involved in an accident and/or get a ticket (in places where laws have been passed against texting, talking on phones while driving) .....then they will blame their insurance company when their rates go up or blame "the stupid law" (saying something idiotic, like---"I have my rights it's my car and should be able to  do what I want"---)    It's NOT the human condition---it's unwillingness to accept RESPONSIBILITY!!! 

Now I totally agree that for some people you have to be explicit and really spell things out for them since they are unable to put two and two together---(i.e. NO SWIMMING=DANGER)......nope they need explicit details.....that is why we get stupid common sense warnings on everyday items---like coffee pots---do not hold the coffee container over your head---OR---do not use hair dryer while in water etc etc etc.....In other words---NO COMMON SENSE!

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It might have been Daily Mail. I was looking at that this morning.

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@NativeJax wrote:
Oh, in regards to signs in Florida...I have seen signs that say not to feed alligators, swim at your own risk or no swimming...I am not opposed to the sign like the pictures that were posted but we sure will need a lot of signs....we will need to add sharks, bears, snakes, panthers, raccoons, mosquitos....we have a lot of wild life here.

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@NativeJax  So be it.... I live in Texas lots of critters even in the city....I live near a greenbelt and as you enter the greenbelt and walking trail---and at all the city and area parks are big signs posted advising of all the things you can encounter---poisionous snakes, racoons, possums, recluse spiders, deer,  and for those parks further out mountain lions are added.....

Even here in the spring when everyone is going out to fields to take pictures of blue bonnets and wild flowers it's on tons of news casts warning about the dangers of snakes....

Certain states it's just expected.....when we drove from the airport to our hotel in the rental car we noted signs about gators which was a deterrent and warning....

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The area was posted no swimming and yet they allowed their very young child to be in the water. How far away from them was he? Were they paying any attention to him? More questions than answers here. Seems to me they were obviously not paying enough attention to him, at 9PM it would be getting dark.

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I ran across a few minutes of an interview with Jack Hanna.  He said that alligators have the speed of a bullet from a (long?) distance.  They can sense vibrations froma mile away, and will gravitate toward any type of splashing.  Something abut this time of year, nesting, breeding, etc. And other things which I don't exactly recall.  You might want to find the interview on either GMA or Today show.  Probably GMA, but I'm not sure.   Found it:  ABCgo.com/GMA/JackHanna reacts to Disney Alligator Attack.