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[SeaMaiden]

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@sidsmom wrote:

Ali signed up with Weight Watchers recently.

I'm sure she'll lose a bunch of weight with Oprah.

5 yrs from now, she'll be in the same situation as of today.

Weight Watchers...#FailedBit

WW is still eating high-calorie density foods, but less = starving.

Good Luck w/ that.

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Interesting that she continues to make her living off of losing and gaining weight... I think that sets you up for trouble... She needs to find something to fulfill her life that does not involve her weight.  I think obsessing about being this or that weight leads to failure... thus like Oprah. The both of them have so much in common as they have made their weight the focus of their being. 

[Tinkrbl44]

Well, it's obvious that even more research needs to be done on the "metabolism" and healthy ways to modify this monster ... it's the real culprit here.

[Ibby114]

Losing that amount of weight at the  speed they lost it?  Your  body can't adjust to even slightly normal eating. It's so difficult to maintain any weight loss as it is- but this show is extreme.

I'm glad this report has come out though- I hope it lessens the stereotypes a bit.

I remember back in the 1980's going on pure liquid diets- I lost probably 8 lbs a week over a 5 week period. Even eating a WW food plan afterwards put back the pounds! It's so unhealthy to mess around with your metablolism- meother nature's going to mess with it enough as you age.

[Trinity11]

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

Well, it's obvious that even more research needs to be done on the "metabolism" and healthy ways to modify this monster ... it's the real culprit here.

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I just read a book by Jason Fung MD. He really has the solution to weight loss. It was suggested to me on the Wellness forum. It probably is the best book I have ever read about keeping the pounds off and why calories aren't everything. He is not an extremist and explains the real reason we tend to gain weight back after dieting. I cannot suggest this book enough.... "The Obesity Code...unlocking the secrets of weight loss."

[willdob3]

I've been doing so much research lately (largely about benefits of fasting) that I don't recall where I read about this but they never addressed the physiological problems that caused them to become obese in the first place. The method used to lose the weight never fixed that. 

It is simply not the problem of calories in/calories out, exercise more that we have been taught it is. 

[MaggieMack]

@Trinity11, thanks for the recommendation of the book, just ordered from Amazon.

[willdob3]

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@Trinity11 wrote:

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

Well, it's obvious that even more research needs to be done on the "metabolism" and healthy ways to modify this monster ... it's the real culprit here.

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I just read a book by Jason Fung MD. He really has the solution to weight loss. It was suggested to me on the Wellness forum. It probably is the best book I have ever read about keeping the pounds off and why calories aren't everything. He is not an extremist and explains the real reason we tend to gain weight back after dieting. I cannot suggest this book enough.... "The Obesity Code...unlocking the secrets of weight loss."

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Anyone interested in losing weight, getting healthy, and staying that way owes it to themselves to, at the very least, spend some time reading the info on Dr. Fung's blog. He has some good videos, too. 

[Ibby114]

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@Trinity11 wrote:

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

Well, it's obvious that even more research needs to be done on the "metabolism" and healthy ways to modify this monster ... it's the real culprit here.

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I just read a book by Jason Fung MD. He really has the solution to weight loss. It was suggested to me on the Wellness forum. It probably is the best book I have ever read about keeping the pounds off and why calories aren't everything. He is not an extremist and explains the real reason we tend to gain weight back after dieting. I cannot suggest this book enough.... "The Obesity Code...unlocking the secrets of weight loss."

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What are some of the key points of Dr Fung's book?

[sidsmom]

Well THIS is interesting.
People really don't know their leaders.

I promote a low fat whole foods plant based diet for healing many modern day illnesses. Eating this way, while providing enough calories for an active lifestyle, will reverse Type 2 diabetes. Fact.

I started a thread titled "Heart Attacks: A plant based exercise solution" on 4/1. Of course the conversation always moves to diabetes where I always say, Type 2 diabetes can be reversed eating a low fat, whole foods, plant based diet. Posters engrained w/ their LCHF ideas always have a hard time understanding the many detailed studies & hundreds of thousands of testimonials which supports my statement of healing with low fat, whole foods, plant based (heavy on starches) way of eating.

In fact one poster said,

"Before I go, as to not give false hope, may I reiterate THERE IS NO CURE FOR DIABETES. THE ADA IS RESEARCHING A CURE BUT AS OF YET THERE ISN'T ONE." (Time stamp: 4/1-01:05 pm)

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Fast forward to today.....Dr. Jason Fung talk.

Dr. Jason Fung promotes dietary means for diabetes cure.
Dr. Jason Fung promotes fasting...lots & LOTS of 20hr to multi-day fastings.
Dr. Jason Fung promotes Atkins-style eating plan...but only after lots of fasting.

I agree with some of Dr. Fung's beliefs...especially with diet curing diabetes. Unfortunately, his dozen/2 success patients (very limited group) in his blog and videos will always be fasting for diabetes control. Begin to eat every day for an active lifestyle & the diabetes will return...of course. Don't eat & you'll be healed.  Tying it to TBL, they basically fasted while on the 'ranch'.  I'm sure they saw results, obviously, but we see what happens when they start eating again.  Dr. Fung's fasting routine will do the same....slow down the metabolism.

But what's giggle-worthy, the same poster above ^^^ CAPITALIZING for emphasis, is the same poster singing the praises of Dr. Jason Fung with his Cure for Diabetes...."best book ever,"

Well....how about that?

Just know your leaders. Obviously this poster doesn't know this.

I do. My plant-based leaders have been educating me for 20+ years saying the same consistent message:

Low fat, whole foods, plant based eating will reverse today's modern illnesses...all the while eating starchy, satisfying food we all grew up with. Eating to satiation w/ no fasting.

[Trinity11]

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@Ibby114 wrote:

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@Trinity11 wrote:

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

Well, it's obvious that even more research needs to be done on the "metabolism" and healthy ways to modify this monster ... it's the real culprit here.

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I just read a book by Jason Fung MD. He really has the solution to weight loss. It was suggested to me on the Wellness forum. It probably is the best book I have ever read about keeping the pounds off and why calories aren't everything. He is not an extremist and explains the real reason we tend to gain weight back after dieting. I cannot suggest this book enough.... "The Obesity Code...unlocking the secrets of weight loss."

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What are some of the key points of Dr Fung's book?

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The multifactorial nature of obesity is the crucial missing link. There is no one single cause of obesity. Do calories cause obesity? Yes but partially. Does insulin resistance cause it.....yes partially. Sugar? Partially. All the factors converge on several hormonal pathways that lead to weight gain and insulin is the most important one. Paleo, cabbage soup diets, vegan etc all reduce insulin.

He adresses the fact that not just 1 thing causes obesity and then he goes on a plan of attack.

Step 1....reduce sugar intake

Don't snack.

He debunks the 6 small meals a day way of dieting

Step 2 ..reduce your consumption of refined grains

Step 3...moderate your protein consumption

Step 4....increase natural fats

Step 5....increase consumption of fiber

Then he goes on to address fasting and how even a mini fast can help with insulin resistance thus a tool to either lose or maintain weight.

This is just a snippet from the book but it finally stops blaming people who have weight issues. It has little to do with will power and everything to do with a plan that incorporates healthy eating mixed with some exercise but it also addresses the main factor that keeps us on a roller coaster of losing and gaining.

Hope that helps to explain why I found it better than some of the diet books I have read in the past...Paleo, Atkins and reducing calories to the point of 800 calories....all these diets partially work but I thought what Dr. Fung wrote was more concise and doable.