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[Mom2Dogs]

Every year I make a couple for my husband and he never keeps them!!

[Laura14]

@Mom2Dogs  Then he needs to add that one to the list.  Write that down for him!  

[Oostende]

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@Drythe wrote:

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@Laura14 wrote:

That is inspiring @Oostende.  I may steal a couple of these.  Thank you very much for sharing!

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@Laura14 @Oostende

Good thoughts, to your list, I would add Tolerance.

It does seem to be in short supply.

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Tolerance is an odd one, @Drythe.  It is really only a virtue if you disagree with another person over something of significance.  I mean, you've nothing to tolerate if you share the same beliefs as another.  

I think kindness is more important than mere tolerance.  Kindness seems to imply a certain responsibility to treat the person with whom you are disagreeing as a human being who is worthy of respect. 

Merely tolerating another point of view sets the bar extremely low, although I agree with your observation that even that low bar is disregarded by most people. 

Too many people want to improve their adversary rather than themselves.

That's why I think it's an odd one.    

[Drythe]

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@Oostende wrote:

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@Drythe wrote:

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@Laura14 wrote:

That is inspiring @Oostende.  I may steal a couple of these.  Thank you very much for sharing!

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@Laura14 @Oostende

Good thoughts, to your list, I would add Tolerance.

It does seem to be in short supply.

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Tolerance is an odd one, @Drythe.  It is really only a virtue if you disagree with another person over something of significance.  I mean, you've nothing to tolerate if you share the same beliefs as another.  

I think kindness is more important than mere tolerance.  Kindness seems to imply a certain responsibility to treat the person with whom you are disagreeing as a human being who is worthy of respect. 

Merely tolerating another point of view sets the bar extremely low, although I agree with your observation that even that low bar is disregarded by most people. 

Too many people want to improve their adversary rather than themselves.

That's why I think it's an odd one.    

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@Oostende

You posted that you worked on a Virtue or Attribute every year and listed some you were interested in.  I complimented you on your list and added my thoughts on the value of working towards Tolerance. 

Tolerance allowed me to consider the value of your list without critiquing, ranking, or judgment.  Your response was that my choice of Tolerance as a virtue is ‘odd’, sets a ‘low bar’, and is ‘not as important' as those you mentioned. 

You might want to rethink the value of Tolerance.  

[Oostende]

@Drythe I apologize.  I didn't mean to be dismissive of a value that you hold so dearly.  I was untangling the word in my own mind.

I meant to advocate kindness over tolerance because I didn't think tolerance went far enough.

Again, I apologize for meeting your kindness with rudeness.

@Laura14 I am sorry for derailing your thread.  I was thinking out loud and these forums are no place for that.  

[cherry]

Each day is a new, fresh, beginning, for everyone. I try to make it a better day for everyone. Sometimes it works, and sometmes it doesn't.

The important thing is to, keep on, keeping on.  Each tiny improvement helps, no matter what issue you are dealing with..and no matter how small the gain, It all counts

[Laura14]

@Oostende  No apology needed.  I understood the spirit of the message you were trying to convey and I actually agree with it. 

I think we get hung up on word choices sometimes especially when we can't hear the tone of the words which can mean different things to different people when read. 

I think we all need to tolerate the differences between ourselves and each other and then lead with kindness in clarifying any if we think it's necessary to do so. 

All three of us did that here and should be more than okay with ourselves.     

[cherry]

I think tolerance is amazing @Drythe  When I hear how many times the word hatred is thrown around here, I cringe. Usually, it is directed at people they don't even know, and who have done nothing to them at all

[AuntG]

This thread shows how thinking out loud can take a thread in the wrong direction.

To answer the question, I want to exercise more and lose weight with a few tweaks in my eating habits. Nothing drastic, just using common sense.

[Drythe]

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@cherry wrote:

I think tolerance is amazing @Drythe  When I hear how many times the word hatred is thrown around here, I cringe. Usually, it is directed at people they don't even know, and who have done nothing to them at all

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@cherry

I too am disheartened at how little tolerance there seems to be.  I believe that tolerance allows us to listen and perhaps Hear one another, only through really Hearing comes, Understanding of differences, which can lead to Caring, Friendship, and Kindness.

But first must come at least some Tolerance for differences.  I see it as a necessary building block which opens doors that otherwise remain closed.