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10-30-2019 01:10 PM
Different sources have stated that a book might be considered a classic after 50 years (obviously, this does not apply to books that have failed).
I feel that 50 years is a reasonable number.
A friend of mine confronted me about Pat Conroy (whom I love): "So you're saying that Pat Conroy's books aren't classics?" Well no, they're not. I appreciate Conroy's writing, but his books don't deserve that "classic' label at this time.
What do you think? What does "classics" mean to you?
10-30-2019 01:52 PM - edited 10-30-2019 01:56 PM
I think 50 years is bit too long before a book is considered a classic. Two that come to mind, To Kill A Mockingbird and Catcher in the Rye, were written, I think, 60 or 70 years ago but IMO have been considered "classics" for decades.
10-30-2019 02:21 PM
@kaydee50 it appears you're saying you can't go by years to consider a book a classic. I agree. Because I'm reading the sequel, I'm reminded that A Handmaid's Tale was written in 1986 (33 years ago) and I think it's considered a classic and has been for a while. I was going to say it's popularity that determines a classic (and yes, it probably should be after a certain number of years). I don't know if there is a definite answer to this. Is The Goldfinch a classic? If it wins an award is it a classic? But to the OP's point, if a book is still popular after 50 years, it probably is a classic.
10-30-2019 02:32 PM
This is an interesting question so I googled it and from what I found no specific time line is involved. "What is a Literary Classic?"
A reader recently wrote me to lightly criticize the fact that I called George Orwell’s Animal Farm and Nineteen Eighty-Four “cult-classics,” suggesting that they instead merit the inferior term “required reading.” So what, exactly, is a classic, and why should we care? Richard J. Smith, in discussing the iconic ancient Chinese Book of Changes, offered a four-point checklist definition and Simon Crtichley showed us how to read them. But perhaps the most essential question is why the classics should be read. That’s exactly what beloved Italian writer Italo Calvino (October 15, 1923–September 19, 1985) addresses in his 1991 book Why Read the Classics? (public library) — a sort of “classic” in its own right.
In this collection of essays on classical literature, Calvino also produces these 14 definitions of a “classic”:
The classics are those books about which you usually hear people saying: 'I'm rereading…', never 'I'm reading….'
The Classics are those books which constitute a treasured experience for those who have read and loved them; but they remain just as rich an experience for those who reserve the chance to read them for when they are in the best condition to enjoy them.
The classics are books which exercise a particular influence, both when they imprint themselves on our imagination as unforgettable, and when they hide in the layers of memory disguised as the individual's or the collective unconscious.
A classic is a book which with each rereading offers as much of a sense of discovery as the first reading.
A classic is a book which even when we read it for the first time gives the sense of rereading something we have read before.
A classic is a book which has never exhausted all it has to say to its readers.
The classics are those books which come to us bearing the aura of previous interpretations, and trailing behind them the traces they have left in the culture or cultures (or just in the languages and customs) through which they have passed.
A classic is a work which constantly generates a pulviscular cloud of critical discourse around it, but which always shakes the particles off.
Classics are books which, the more we think we know them through hearsay, the more original, unexpected, and innovative we find them when we actually read them.
A classic is the term given to any book which comes to represent the whole universe, a book on a par with ancient talismans.
'Your' classic is a book to which you cannot remain indifferent, and which helps you define yourself in relation or even in opposition to it.
A classic is a work that comes before other classics; but those who have read other classics first immediately recognize its place in the genealogy of classic works.
A classic is a work which relegates the noise of the present to a background hum, which at the same time the classics cannot exist without.
A classic is a work which persists as a background noise even when a present that is totally incompatible with it holds sway.
Perhaps most poetic is Calvino’s 11th definition, bespeaking the idea that there is room for subjectivity even in a term as deterministically universal as a “classic,” and offering a witty answer to the nitpicky reader: “‘Your’ classic is a book to which you cannot remain indifferent, and which helps you define yourself in relation or even in opposition to it.”
A more recent artcile updated just this month at the below site by Esther Lombardi
https://www.thoughtco.com/concept-of-classics-in-literature-739770
10-30-2019 05:03 PM
I personlly think that classics, like beauty, are in the eye (or the mind) of the beholder.
I've seen books called classics that I wouldn't give 2 cents for or that I read and bored me silly!
I myself consider the Maud Hart Lovelace Betsy-Tacy series classics. I've read and re-read them since I first found them in high schol and I'm 71 now!!
10-30-2019 06:37 PM - edited 10-30-2019 06:40 PM
Lovemygrands, I agree completely that the Betsy-Tacy-Tib books are classics (and, of course, they were written over 50 years ago).
A friend of mine, who has long loved this series, actually drove (I forget where) to see the neighborhood the books were supposedly based on. She also bought the companion book and re-read the whole series as she studied the extra information available in that supplementary book.
I intend to do that--maybe it will be my first book project for 2020.
And beckyb1012: thank you for the valuable material you supplied!
10-31-2019 01:09 PM - edited 10-31-2019 01:11 PM
@insomniac2 I've read supplemental books about Maud Hart Lovelace and the series and the locations. Fascinating. In one of the books there are photos of the real life people and I swear the drawings of Joe look SO much like Maud's husband, Delos Lovelace. And Joe was created long before they met!
I just looked it up and the books were published between 1940 and 1955!
11-04-2019 09:43 PM
What an interesting question, @insomniac2. I would have said 100 years, give or take! But 50 plus seems reasonable.
The reason for the long "ripening" is that something as complex as a great work of literature, I believe, needs to weather the buffeting of trends and fads, and needs to survive the test of time. 100 years is just a number, and seems like a long time, but it represents several generations and the objectivity of distance is helpful, in my opinion.
I admit to having a kind of 'high bar' as to what constitutes a classic....
11-05-2019 12:28 PM
Oznell, you do have a high bar set for determining the age needed to determine whether a book is a classic or not--but I actually agree with you. Your explanation makes perfect sense.
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