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07-09-2017 08:29 AM
I've read that no perfumes smell the same anymore. If you want a real one you have to go to one of the sites that still has the original 'oldies'. There is a reason for this but I can't remember why this is. It's not the inferior ingredients or the fillers-something required by law I think. I have blanked out on this. I do get tired of hearing Tova say how jasmine is 75,000 dollars an ounce or something. All I know, is it was great but it's over.
07-09-2017 08:47 AM - edited 07-09-2017 08:49 AM
@Sweet_Serenity wrote:Right?! That's why Channel #5 same today as day of conception. Trust me, Reason Tova and PH no longer smell or last the same powers that own two companies choose using inferior fillers.
@Reever wrote:Someone said she hasn't been able to acquire the same sandalwood oil she used in the 80s and 90s
We don't really know. Google reveals many articles that explain that many ingredients have been reclassified as allergens and can no longer be used. So it's very possible that the ingredients in Tova had to be changed for this reason. Or maybe they were changed for cost-cutting reasons. We'll never know for sure.
07-09-2017 09:15 AM
I don't wear a lot of fragrance, but once in a while I wil wear Tova and it smells perfectly fine to me. I guess that is because I never tired it in the 80s or 90s.
07-09-2017 09:20 AM
The original scent was divine, what a shame it is no longer.
07-09-2017 11:16 AM
I use the "new" Tova. Smells great on me and I get compliments all the time when I wear it. Never had the "old" version.
07-09-2017 11:38 AM
@Reba055 wrote:I like Philosophy, but wow, they beat it to death with the presentations. I'd much rather watch Tova. How much can you talk about Philosophy? Give it a rest.
ITA! I wish Philosophy would bring back some of their color cosmetics. I'm using a powdered eyeliner that I've had for ages and should replace. I can't find one I like as much as this one. I do like some of their skincare and bath products but how many bath gels does one need! I do wear Summer Grace daily year round and use the bathgel, olive oil scrub and body cream and like it. I also like Tova and did use and like both her signature fragrance and her Cactine skincare. Hmmm...May try it againThanks a lot enablers...lol!
07-09-2017 01:01 PM
Yes, perfume formulas used to include many allergens and ingredients that could cause sensitivity.
But more important, some ingredients are prohibited because of cruelty to animals.
07-09-2017 01:40 PM
@SXMGirl wrote:QVC should insist that original formulas be used on all perfumes that they sell. They have the power to do so. Tova's signature fragrance is all that I wore for years but it no longer is the same product. Tova probably does care, but when she sold her company, she lost control of the product. At 80, she is probably past the point of worrying about it.
Not realistic for QVC to demand that Tova goes back to the original scent.
Why, you ask?
Say that QVC DEMANDED that Tova goes back to the original ingredients that she used 20 years ago.
Those same ingredients now cost more, a whole lot more.
So therefore, it costs more to make the EDT.
QVC wants to buy this perfume.
Do you really think that QVC is just going to absorb what it costs to buy it?
Say it costs QVC $150 per 3.4 ounce bottle,
Do you really think that QVC isn't going to pass that increase on to their customers?
Now, let's say that QVC turns around and sells that 3.4 ounce bottle for $300, because, QVC has to make a profit on it you know.
How many people would be willing to shell out $300 for a 3.4 ounce bottle of perfume?
Some would, sure, but not enough for QVC to justify what it costs them to purchase it in the first place.
Economics 101.
So that's what QVC won't "demand" that Tova go back to using the original ingrediants.
07-09-2017 01:52 PM
@Plaid Pants2, I understand basic economics and how expensive the original formula would be. I also know that just by reading these forums that people who really like her brand will pay the price. I remember when Tova sold her products by taking out classified ads in the newspapers and she did very well. We are well past that; and, while the Q would not sell as much product and does not want to spend that type of money to go back to the original formula (no one wants a huge inventory of a product that has a somewhat small shelf life), they could probably do a small amount for the holidays. I guarantee that it would sell out.
07-09-2017 03:59 PM
more to @Judaline point:
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