Beauty

[CoG]

Where is Laura's deep cocoa model? Is it the one barely honey? the one who couldn't even wear the bronzer because its too full of white and mud and what ever that pink part is? And - If you've excluded everyone who has real color why pretend you've done anything other than exactly that. And the lightener, glistener, shine maker? Precisely what improvement did that achieve? The composition of the kit says it all. You can choose your face color but nothing else ? What about lips? .......

the saddest part of this all for me is that I keep watching knowing there's nothing for me here. to hear the sound of human voices ? Yeah getting old is a coyote.

[Nancy Drew]

And her model looks about 12 so what about the women over 20? I am not talking about Suzanne, the one who is seated by her and Jacqui

[Qlady100]

WHAT ?????????

[KATZMAKEUP]

Seriously, if I felt they way you do about this makeup I would step away from the tv and write this line off!!!

[Kjelle]

On 9/26/2014 KATZMAKEUP said: Seriously, if I felt they way you do about this makeup I would step away from the tv and write this line off!!!

The problem, Katz, is that so many things are like this. Many times if I have a white friend and start pointing this out, they start to notice it on their own. Generally, you wouldn't notice (assuming you are white, pardon me if you're not) because everything is made for you. These things are daily inconveniences for ppl of colour. The unforgivable thing is that most ppl in the entire world are ppl of colour and the US is browner every year, so they'd better wake up and get with the program. Even Lancôme has realized it. Green talks and is the colour that matters most to manufacturers and we have money to spend too. Bless the lines that include us.

[all]

I hate it when they say ""medium will cover about 80% of us..."" Does that mean the 80% who will buy? I certainly see more that 80% white/light faces when I walk on the street. Grrrr

[Campion]

I have pale-medium skin but I do notice that SO many lines don't go very dark at all. I wonder how women I know who have deep-of-darks skin can buy makeup? It must be frustrating, not the least of which is the chalkiness or ashy tones you see. Asian makeup often has whiteners because they favor a flat, even pale look so those would be impossible. ALL skin tones are beautiful (if you paint, there is nothing more wonderful than studying how many colors are to be seen in skin tones--from russets to sepia to blue and purple, red, even green.) So why if a good percentage of the population has deep skin tone, are makeup lines stopping at tan?

[mustbuyless]

On 9/25/2014 CoG said: Qlady100, please go to the add for the TSV. Click on the darkest color available . Look at the colors. Most of it is the color of burnt chocolate to be kind, looks like tar or asphalt to me. Can't say the actual substance it resembles or it will be censured. The next most abundant color is gray- tan. Would you put that on your face? Neither did the model. I was speaking of the model she used. Her skin is the color of really good honey, not tar. There's no way she used the dark or deep or whatever she calls it. The remainder of the kit makes even the lightest model's face white and shiny. The lipstick is horrendous for someone with lips that have color of their own. Jackie's skin looked brown, ashy, her lips garish .she has white streaks on her forehead and under her eyes and a straight brown streak where her cheekbones might intersect. And Jackie is gorgeous, her skin, bare is perfection. She loves to take her makeup off for one of the companies and does it because she's revealing gorgeous skin and is only taking the pigmented products off. None of this would matter if Laura didn't keep harping about what a fabulous job she's done making makeup for all skin tones from porcelain to the " deepest cocoa " . She doesn't. She could use Monica, or how about Jane and put her makeup on them. You'd see a grey cast that makes them look like corpses. There is more warm brown in her bronzer than her foundation. It's no different than trying to make gold out of bronzo. If you don't know anybody of color you'll never get it. I don't even expect you to understand. I just somehow insist on holding onto hope. Maybe someday someone will look at me and see the red based warm brown skin, not asphalt colored nothingness. She can see gradations of white beige and tan but none of the many shades of anything beyond tan. It's all one shade to her, the color of the pig sty mud she puts in her Italian baking pans.

I haven't tried Laura Geller, did think about it once or twice, and now I won't. I am not surprised at all because your analysis certainly applies to most makeup lines I've tried (and I pretty much gave up a few years ago and decided foundation etc weren't for me). Other examples: When I lived in a small midwest town, I could never even find lipstick that would cover my dark lips, let alone be stylish or trendy. The Paula's Choice tinted spf moisturizer, which they hock as appropriate for all skin tones, came on orange for me, and when I posted about that here I was informed I'd used it wrong ("you must have put on too much"!!!

Thanks for posting your review- I found it very helpful. Your description of tones beyond tan--their richness & beauty and variety- is esp. perfect.

[CoG]

I can't believe it. Jane knows she doesn't have any of that mess on her face. I am lighter than she and I know what it does to your complexion. Just look at her hand as she nears the model's face. Not one thing in that kit except the liner and mascara will suit her. How is chartreuse green, pink and white going to even out anything? Even the pale modes are florescing. But we've all determined that the hosts say whatever they need to to sell the product. But to sell out? To tell a bald faced falsehood in front of everybody who knows differently? she's gone too far. This isn't enough to make me like her any less ( I lie, it has to some degree) , but she's definitely lost esteem, respect this morning. They should have let Rachel do the demo. She could have made it believable. I kept waiting for Jane to choke on her words.

At least I know QVC has heard the complaint. but Oh Jane, how could you?