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08-02-2022 12:28 PM
@Jk9 wrote:Disappointed in the tsv and hoped he would offer something else. Peter has so many amazing products that I would have purchased, but not this one.
@Jk9 He has these products on sale.
08-02-2022 12:47 PM
@Shanus wrote:I never understood these temporary "tightening" products. Unless you plan to do it every time you leave the house, people you know will see you some days w/ wrinkles and others not.
What's the point?
I think this would be a good option for people who do not have the money, time, or desire for procedures and injections. Some may not be good candiates to have procedures and injections.
I would wear if if I liked the way I look better with the product than without or just wanted a different look.
08-02-2022 12:57 PM
For me, the thing w/ these temp products is that you need to use them on clean, dry skin. So, no room for good skin care. How could you go all day without that? I want the protection and nutrients of good skin care, and I want that first on my skin.
I might consider these, though for a photo shoot (or for driver's license). Either that, or get the photographer who knows how to air brush. I don't think DMV does that!
08-02-2022 05:50 PM
I use too many oil products for this to ever be effective for me. I don't use any PTR items. Not sure that I am missing out on anything. The users on this forum seem to collectively know it all and I've been reading for a long time. His products never seem to get the fan fair other lines do.
Of course correct me if I am wrong. I am curious about that super size retinol.
08-02-2022 05:57 PM
Peter Thomas Roth tests on animals..
All tested on animals.
08-02-2022 06:02 PM
I have never found his products to perform any miracles either and his ingredients are often not the highest quality. Lots of artificial dyes. The TSV item has very mixed reviews from before,
08-02-2022 06:11 PM
Yes they do. I will not buy from anyone who tests on animals.
08-02-2022 07:32 PM
08-02-2022 09:41 PM
@Harpa I use this and it works fantastic. There is a learning curve. I apply face and eye creams OVER the FirmX.
I use this whenever I go out of the house. I highly recommend it.
08-03-2022 07:10 AM
I was going to buy this and I figured it was like that other product -- I forget the name of it -- but it did make the under eye area look less wrinkly, etc., but it did flake and you couldn't put any moisturizer or makeup over it.
You wrote that you did apply face or eye cream OVER this product. And it didn't take away the effectiveness of the product? I would have thought it would. If it doesn't, then I might give it a try.
Thanks for answering!
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