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Re: Just recieved the new Mally tsv and it came with a warning...

Here are the FACTS about why California puts these warnings on products and how they determine what needs to have a warning on it from the cancer.org website http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/cancer-warning-labels-based-on-cal...

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California's own website. I like that this is called ""Propostition 65 in plain language"" lol.

http://www.oehha.ca.gov/prop65/background/p65plain.html

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Re: Just recieved the new Mally tsv and it came with a warning...

On 1/13/2014 HappyDaze said:

Here are the FACTS about why California puts these warnings on products and how they determine what needs to have a warning on it from the cancer.org website http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/cancer-warning-labels-based-on-cal...

and

California's own website. I like that this is called "Propostition 65 in plain language" lol.

http://www.oehha.ca.gov/prop65/background/p65plain.html

Yeah, I was reading that same page, lol.

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Re: Just recieved the new Mally tsv and it came with a warning...

On 1/13/2014 Icegoddess said:
On 1/13/2014 suzyQ3 said:
On 1/13/2014 Icegoddess said:

So, you should be fine, since you don't live in CA. And it doesn't tell you what that chemical is? To tell you the truth, CA is so restrictive, I wouldn't be concerned about it myself. You notice the statement doesn't just say it contains an ingredient known to cause cancer. Therefore, the way I read it is that the powers in CA have determined that it causes cancer, but that this has not been accepted by scientists in all the other states.

Huh? That's exactly what it says. It's a Prop 65 warning probably due to lead.

Now, whether it will harm or kill you is a different story, but many lipsticks unfortunately do contain lead.

No, it says In California it contains an ingredient known to cause cancer.

SMH.

And thanks to others who have posted the "in plain language" page. I have posted that on this forum several times in the last couple weeks.


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Re: Just recieved the new Mally tsv and it came with a warning...

On 1/13/2014 FinnyMinny said:
On 1/13/2014 Icegoddess said:
On 1/13/2014 suzyQ3 said:
On 1/13/2014 Icegoddess said:

So, you should be fine, since you don't live in CA. And it doesn't tell you what that chemical is? To tell you the truth, CA is so restrictive, I wouldn't be concerned about it myself. You notice the statement doesn't just say it contains an ingredient known to cause cancer. Therefore, the way I read it is that the powers in CA have determined that it causes cancer, but that this has not been accepted by scientists in all the other states.

Huh? That's exactly what it says. It's a Prop 65 warning probably due to lead.

Now, whether it will harm or kill you is a different story, but many lipsticks unfortunately do contain lead.

No, it says In California it contains an ingredient known to cause cancer.

But you wrote "So, you should be fine, since you don't live in CA," implying that since she's not in CA she won't get cancer. It's pretty easy to Google and find the actually information explained at a .gov site. CA isn't just making stuff up with no scientific backing. People everywhere are aware of the fact that these chemicals have been linked to cancer. It's not "known" in CA only, it's just that only CA has a law to notify people. They are informing consumers of the facts of the ingredients contained in products, and you need to decide for yourself if you want to expose yourself to that ingredient and how much.

Actually, that was meant as a joke because of the way the warning was worded. I don't depend on CA to warn me about ingredients in my cosmetics. I look at the ingredient deck myself. However, if they are going to make the warning, they should indicate what ingredient they are referring to.

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Re: Just recieved the new Mally tsv and it came with a warning...

On 1/13/2014 Icegoddess said:
On 1/13/2014 FinnyMinny said:
On 1/13/2014 Icegoddess said:
On 1/13/2014 suzyQ3 said:
On 1/13/2014 Icegoddess said:

So, you should be fine, since you don't live in CA. And it doesn't tell you what that chemical is? To tell you the truth, CA is so restrictive, I wouldn't be concerned about it myself. You notice the statement doesn't just say it contains an ingredient known to cause cancer. Therefore, the way I read it is that the powers in CA have determined that it causes cancer, but that this has not been accepted by scientists in all the other states.

Huh? That's exactly what it says. It's a Prop 65 warning probably due to lead.

Now, whether it will harm or kill you is a different story, but many lipsticks unfortunately do contain lead.

No, it says In California it contains an ingredient known to cause cancer.

But you wrote "So, you should be fine, since you don't live in CA," implying that since she's not in CA she won't get cancer. It's pretty easy to Google and find the actually information explained at a .gov site. CA isn't just making stuff up with no scientific backing. People everywhere are aware of the fact that these chemicals have been linked to cancer. It's not "known" in CA only, it's just that only CA has a law to notify people. They are informing consumers of the facts of the ingredients contained in products, and you need to decide for yourself if you want to expose yourself to that ingredient and how much.

Actually, that was meant as a joke because of the way the warning was worded. I don't depend on CA to warn me about ingredients in my cosmetics. I look at the ingredient deck myself. However, if they are going to make the warning, they should indicate what ingredient they are referring to.

OOHHHHH!!! LOL. I thought you were being serious with that remark, and it made my head spin. Ok, this makes more A LOT sense. :-)

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Re: Just recieved the new Mally tsv and it came with a warning...

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Re: Just recieved the new Mally tsv and it came with a warning...

On 1/13/2014 Icegoddess said:
On 1/13/2014 FinnyMinny said:
On 1/13/2014 Icegoddess said:
On 1/13/2014 suzyQ3 said:
On 1/13/2014 Icegoddess said:

So, you should be fine, since you don't live in CA. And it doesn't tell you what that chemical is? To tell you the truth, CA is so restrictive, I wouldn't be concerned about it myself. You notice the statement doesn't just say it contains an ingredient known to cause cancer. Therefore, the way I read it is that the powers in CA have determined that it causes cancer, but that this has not been accepted by scientists in all the other states.

Huh? That's exactly what it says. It's a Prop 65 warning probably due to lead.

Now, whether it will harm or kill you is a different story, but many lipsticks unfortunately do contain lead.

No, it says In California it contains an ingredient known to cause cancer.

But you wrote "So, you should be fine, since you don't live in CA," implying that since she's not in CA she won't get cancer. It's pretty easy to Google and find the actually information explained at a .gov site. CA isn't just making stuff up with no scientific backing. People everywhere are aware of the fact that these chemicals have been linked to cancer. It's not "known" in CA only, it's just that only CA has a law to notify people. They are informing consumers of the facts of the ingredients contained in products, and you need to decide for yourself if you want to expose yourself to that ingredient and how much.

Actually, that was meant as a joke because of the way the warning was worded. I don't depend on CA to warn me about ingredients in my cosmetics. I look at the ingredient deck myself. However, if they are going to make the warning, they should indicate what ingredient they are referring to.

{#emotions_dlg.laugh} okay, I was HOPING that was a joke!

According to the Prop 65 "rules" they are not required to say what products, why, I have no idea. It is like, gee thanks for warning us but WHAT contains the possibly harmful ingredient!!! So silly.

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Re: Just recieved the new Mally tsv and it came with a warning...

On 1/13/2014 Icegoddess said:
On 1/13/2014 FinnyMinny said:
On 1/13/2014 Icegoddess said:
On 1/13/2014 suzyQ3 said:
On 1/13/2014 Icegoddess said:

So, you should be fine, since you don't live in CA. And it doesn't tell you what that chemical is? To tell you the truth, CA is so restrictive, I wouldn't be concerned about it myself. You notice the statement doesn't just say it contains an ingredient known to cause cancer. Therefore, the way I read it is that the powers in CA have determined that it causes cancer, but that this has not been accepted by scientists in all the other states.

Huh? That's exactly what it says. It's a Prop 65 warning probably due to lead.

Now, whether it will harm or kill you is a different story, but many lipsticks unfortunately do contain lead.

No, it says In California it contains an ingredient known to cause cancer.

But you wrote "So, you should be fine, since you don't live in CA," implying that since she's not in CA she won't get cancer. It's pretty easy to Google and find the actually information explained at a .gov site. CA isn't just making stuff up with no scientific backing. People everywhere are aware of the fact that these chemicals have been linked to cancer. It's not "known" in CA only, it's just that only CA has a law to notify people. They are informing consumers of the facts of the ingredients contained in products, and you need to decide for yourself if you want to expose yourself to that ingredient and how much.

Actually, that was meant as a joke because of the way the warning was worded. I don't depend on CA to warn me about ingredients in my cosmetics. I look at the ingredient deck myself. However, if they are going to make the warning, they should indicate what ingredient they are referring to.

Good to know it was a joke. Smile

And yes, as for indicating which chemical is present, that is not up to the government agency (OEHHA).

From the cancer.org site:

About the labels required by Proposition 65

Manufacturers decide to put warning labels on their products based on their knowledge of the types of chemicals in them. The labels must provide “clear and reasonable warnings” about any potential risk. By law, Californians must be warned about any chemical on their list, unless the level of exposure would pose no significant cancer risk.

The law defines “no significant risk” as a level of exposure that would cause no more than 1 extra case of cancer in 100,000 people over a 70-year lifetime. So a compound can be unlabeled if a person exposed to the substance at the expected level for 70 years is estimated to have a 1 in 100,000 chance or less of getting cancer due to that exposure. The law also has similar strict cutoff levels for birth defects and reproductive harm.

Manufacturers are not required to provide the OEHHA with any information about the products. That means the OEHHA doesn’t know which chemical the warning refers to, how exposure could occur, or how much of the chemical a consumer is likely to be exposed to – and the amount of exposure is a critical determinant of risk. The OEHHA cannot offer information to help the consumer figure out what the potential risk is and how to avoid it. These kinds of details can only come from the product’s manufacturer.

What the labels don’t say

The Prop 65 labels only tell you that a product has something in it that might cause cancer or affect reproduction. They don’t say what the substance is, where it is in the product, how you might be exposed to it, what the level of risk is, or how to reduce your exposure.

How to get more information about what is in the product

If you find a warning label on a product and want more information, you will need to:

  • Find the name of the manufacturer by checking the package and any written information that comes with the product. The contact information is often on or in the package as well, but if it isn’t, you can look it up online by searching the manufacturer’s name.
  • Call, email, or write to the manufacturer about that specific product to find out what the potentially hazardous substance in the product is. You might also want to ask what part of the product it’s in.
  • Ask the manufacturer how a person might be exposed to it in this product. Some common exposure routes include inhalation, contact with food, transfer to food or drink via unwashed hands, or a baby or child putting the product in its mouth. Different routes are important for different substances.
  • Find out what the manufacturer knows about the hazards of the substance that is in the product. Is it a possible cause of cancer, might it cause reproductive harm, or both?
  • Ask the manufacturer what you can do to reduce any risk of exposure to the hazardous substance while using the product.

After you learn exactly what the substance is, you can usually find more information about it from other sources as well. The OEHHA has fact sheets on many common chemicals on its Web site. Sometimes you can find specific information on the OEHHA Web site, such as news about jewelry that contains lead or cadmium, or about kids and hand-to-mouth transfer.


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Re: Just recieved the new Mally tsv and it came with a warning...

On 1/14/2014 HappyDaze said:
On 1/13/2014 Icegoddess said:
On 1/13/2014 FinnyMinny said:
On 1/13/2014 Icegoddess said:
On 1/13/2014 suzyQ3 said:
On 1/13/2014 Icegoddess said:

So, you should be fine, since you don't live in CA. And it doesn't tell you what that chemical is? To tell you the truth, CA is so restrictive, I wouldn't be concerned about it myself. You notice the statement doesn't just say it contains an ingredient known to cause cancer. Therefore, the way I read it is that the powers in CA have determined that it causes cancer, but that this has not been accepted by scientists in all the other states.

Huh? That's exactly what it says. It's a Prop 65 warning probably due to lead.

Now, whether it will harm or kill you is a different story, but many lipsticks unfortunately do contain lead.

No, it says In California it contains an ingredient known to cause cancer.

But you wrote "So, you should be fine, since you don't live in CA," implying that since she's not in CA she won't get cancer. It's pretty easy to Google and find the actually information explained at a .gov site. CA isn't just making stuff up with no scientific backing. People everywhere are aware of the fact that these chemicals have been linked to cancer. It's not "known" in CA only, it's just that only CA has a law to notify people. They are informing consumers of the facts of the ingredients contained in products, and you need to decide for yourself if you want to expose yourself to that ingredient and how much.

Actually, that was meant as a joke because of the way the warning was worded. I don't depend on CA to warn me about ingredients in my cosmetics. I look at the ingredient deck myself. However, if they are going to make the warning, they should indicate what ingredient they are referring to.

{#emotions_dlg.laugh} okay, I was HOPING that was a joke!

According to the Prop 65 "rules" they are not required to say what products, why, I have no idea. It is like, gee thanks for warning us but WHAT contains the possibly harmful ingredient!!! So silly.

It does seem silly, HD, but I wonder whether not requiring businesses to indicate which product or products or any other information might have been a bone thrown to them back when Prop 65 first came into being.


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Re: Just recieved the new Mally tsv and it came with a warning...

On 1/14/2014 Persephonel said: Did you try the primer?

My question too.