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03-22-2017 10:31 AM
In our area minimum wage will soon be 15 dollars an hour.Restaurants will sometimes have the tip automatically added to your bill.Do you think it is fair to expect a tip when the person is earning a fair wage and the service might not have been great.I thought tips were a generous gift from the customer and not mandatory.
03-22-2017 10:36 AM
If you feel the tip is too high or not deserved, ask that it be removed. I've done that on a couple of occasions. They complied with my request.
03-22-2017 10:39 AM
Waiters do not make minimum wage. Its much lower and the amount the resturant pays maybe covers tax. Waiters and waitresses live off of their tips. If you don't want to tip don't go out to resturants that require it socially.
03-22-2017 10:50 AM
@Sunnycorle wrote:Waiters do not make minimum wage. Its much lower and the amount the resturant pays maybe covers tax. Waiters and waitresses live off of their tips. If you don't want to tip don't go out to resturants that require it socially.
I agree. In our state, waiters and waitresses are exempt from the standard minimum wage. They get paid a very low salary and rely on tips to bring their salary up to what they can live on.
03-22-2017 10:58 AM
They also pay tax on the sales made. Most people unaware of this. Server worked in Las Vegas and Hollywood made very good living. Saved diligently and because of this retired early. Never expected tips my customers gifted me vacations more than once. Of course! My clients high income bracket. California makes minimum.
@Sunnycorle wrote:Waiters do not make minimum wage. Its much lower and the amount the resturant pays maybe covers tax. Waiters and waitresses live off of their tips. If you don't want to tip don't go out to resturants that require it socially.
03-22-2017 10:58 AM
I eat out with a friend (lunch late usually) at least 4 to 5 times a week (widow, don't cook). I think I'm pretty qualified to answer some of these questions.
I usually end up talking with our waiters. Many of them are single mothers. I always tip AT LEAST 20% because I know they only make $2.15.
I greatly resent the fact that I'm made to feel like I am responsible for this person's salary. Can you imagine the profit made by the restaurant?
I can say (my opinion and that of my friend I eat with) that (should the hourly rate go to $15) I doubt that we'd tip at all and if we did it would be the minimum tip. We don't tip other's who make that amount of money hourly, do we?
We know the places where the servers are terrible, we know who to ask to sit near and so on. Believe me, it makes a difference.
Some servers are very professional, other's not so much. The other day a server acted like he recognized me (this happens so often it's a joke with people who REALLY know me). I smiled and said, "Hello". I was with my friend whom I eat with. He (the server delivered our food). No problem. But as the meal went on he suddenly pulled up a chair (we were in a booth) and sat and talked with us the entire rest of the meal! I had no idea who the heck this guy was. He over-stepped, to say the least!
We kept saying, "Better let you go to take care of your other tables". He ignored us. I didn't want to hurt his feelings so I wasn't rude.
I can be very 'matter of fact' at times, but I held my temper...
I could write a book on the people we've encountered eating out so often (this is about tipping and restaurants). There have been times when we've left less than 20% but it is rare because usually the service is fair to excellent. (It's not brain surgery to deliver the food).
Due to the economy these days people who once served tables to get extra money now find themselves doing it for a living. Some realize the importance of good service, other's EXPECT a good tip no matter how THEIR service toward us is....
It's a touch situation because we eat out so often we frequent the same places often. This makes us less likely to (sometimes) pay the tip amount we feel like they should get (no spitting in our food).
To summarize. There is no way I would put 20% tip on a bill if I knew the waiter was receiving $15 an hour. I might tip a few dollars, but not much. Why?
Here's why!! That restaurant would have to make up the difference of paying them that amount by raising the cost of the food. The cost of the food would go up sharply. I'd consider that the amount I'd normally tip the waiter. It's not my fault he/she is now getting more money. Obviously, a restaurant isn't going to absorb the increase in paying them, why should I?
This is different but I feel like I have to say it...Because we eat out so much most of our waiters are females. As I said an enormous number of them are single mothers. This is true especially since we eat lunch meals. That means these mothers are working while their children are in school so they can be home when the child gets out of school, saving child care.
If women's groups want to help females, I believe they should work toward making child care more affordable; but more than anything they should lobby lawmakers to make it a LAW that these deadbeat Dad's pay their child support. More than that, enforce that if they don't pay their child support, they will have money taken from their paychecks every week and immediately sent to the ex-wife for their child. It's not for the ex-wife, it's for the child. The stories we hear about the ex-husband buying new trucks, taking girlfriends out to dinner and trips, meanwhile giving the ex-wife (for the child) $200 a month, or even less is unbelievable.
I'll go sit down now...
03-22-2017 10:59 AM
@Sunnycorle wrote:Waiters do not make minimum wage. Its much lower and the amount the resturant pays maybe covers tax. Waiters and waitresses live off of their tips. If you don't want to tip don't go out to resturants that require it socially.
And this is what has to change. i realize that tipping is well established in our society but how is it that a restaurant (or other tip based enterprise) is allowed to give a base pay to a worker that is well under minimum wage and then that worker has to rely on the goodwill and mood of their customer (no matter how good the service) to make up the difference? And I've heard of customers getting mad at a server and deny them a tip when the issue has been the fault of a cook, or the restaurant itself.
I understand that the tip is a well established part of our society, but iI think it is the Management's responsibility to provide the incentives (like any other business) to motivate the employee to meet the high standards expected.
BTW, even though I don't believe in tipping and think that the company is responsible for their employee, it's the system we have and I DO tip and tip very well.....
03-22-2017 11:09 AM
@dex wrote:In our area minimum wage will soon be 15 dollars an hour.Restaurants will sometimes have the tip automatically added to your bill.Do you think it is fair to expect a tip when the person is earning a fair wage and the service might not have been great.I thought tips were a generous gift from the customer and not mandatory.
What does your local ordinance say? Does it say that it includes or omits servers in that $15 minimum wage? (And make sure you check to see who it affects in general. A lot of cities are making the news for passing laws to give city workers and city contract workers a minimum wage of $15 an hour but the law does not affect anyone who isn't working for the city or working on a project contracted by the city.)
Most servers do not make minimum wage, they make just over $2.00 an hour and the tips aren't a supplemental income, they are the majority of the person's income. Unless your local law says that servers must be included in that $15 minimum wage, I would say yes, they will very much need those tips.
03-22-2017 11:10 AM - edited 03-24-2017 07:20 AM
03-22-2017 11:18 AM - edited 03-22-2017 11:18 AM
Tipping is part of eating out in resturants and has been forever! Its a great way for a student or young person to get their foot in the door of employment and to work while going to school. I waited tables thru College and learned alot about how to act socially. I paid my entire way thru College and if I didn't have a job like Waiting tables I would never been able to do it.
It also teaches you how to be good resturant patron.
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