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In the ongoing saga of my father's passing, I have just found out something else.

 

I have access to one of his accounts, a checking account.  I am writing checks to pay bills, and monitoring it for credits and debits that were set up automatically.  I have been notifying those who he did business with that he has passed away.

 

For example, the company he got a pension from (to stop it), his insurance company (to cancel his policies), find out how to file claims on policies that may owe his estate, etc.

 

FYI, Social Security gets notified right away by whoever handles burial or cremation.  They had posted a payment and took it away within about 24 hours!!

 

The account has some checks I cannot account for.  My dad had 4 people on his account so we could all pay for his needs or shop, etc.  So before I asked my brother and sister-in-law about them, I decided to go and look back for them.

 

What I have found out is they were using his account for all of their gasoline purchases.  I never asked for anything like this.  Then I got what is a shocker to me.  I found an almost $14,000.00 check written by my sister-in-law to a bank, with a notation on the check "Corvette."  My brother got a new Corvette around Christmas, 2018.  I was happy for him and have consistently showed interest and asked for photos, etc.  I remember my sister-in-law saying "I just paid off the Corvette."  She is an electrician and works a lot when work is available and they have no debt (to my limited knowledge).  She drives a Cadillac Escalade.  I don't care what anyone has, especially my own brother.  I am happy if he is living well.  I love him.

 

She wrote this check in July, 2019.  My father was a generous person, especially to us.  My shock comes as my dad was not mentally competent in the last months of his life.  I would have felt uncomfortable asking him for money in the last 6 months.  Maybe in a dire emergency, but not for a Corvette.  Over our lives, my dad helped me financially at times, and I assumed he helped my brother.  I never asked, and don't know.  It was his to give.

 

I am totally surprised by seeing this.

 

Hyacinth

 

 

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Sounds as if your sister-in-law took financial advantage of your father, and saw that he was vulnerable, and helped herself to his money.

 

 

I know you keep saying that she isn't interested in the money, just the power and control, but I'm sorry, all of her actions, especially this one point to the fact that she is money hungry.

 

As for your brother, I know that you love him, but he either needs to grow a ...... spine and stand up to his wife, or he is willingly going along with her because they are of like mind.

 

 

 

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@hyacinth003 , you should consult your attorney about how to proceed with this issue in the full knowledge that, if you take any action, it will probably mark the end of your relationship with your brother.  LM

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In a similar situation, I am taking comfort in the fact that I’m doing everything possible to secure the best possible care for a dearly loved relative and doing all I can to ignore opportunistic “loved ones” who are waiting solely to find out what they’ll get after the funeral. 

 

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@hyacinth003 , that Bank Acc is also a part of the estate. From what I know that amount should be deducted from your brother´s share of the estate. I would look for any substantial amount and make a note of it and that also includes any substantial amount you got from your dad.

 

Don´t know if the laws have changed concerning this. 

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Now you know why she is behaving the way she is. Let it go. But don’t let the lesson learned go. 

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Not at all surprising to me.  Have heard too many stories.

 

It can end up siblings never talking to each other again.  Sometimes they even blame the executor if it's a family member for how the will was made out as if that person decided who would get what.

 

Also, how they and their wives took advantage of a parent with dementia. 

 

Yes, they can be siblings you got along with all your life who stab you in the back.  It's heartbreaking.   

 

 

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@hyacinth003 let me just say.....that is horrible! I'd be appalled. I'm sorry for your loss. You sound like a terrific daughter.

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@Lilysmom wrote:

@hyacinth003 , you should consult your attorney about how to proceed with this issue in the full knowledge that, if you take any action, it will probably mark the end of your relationship with your brother.  LM


@Lilysmom 

 

I doubt I would go the attorney route.  It would be their word against someone who is deceased.  All his caregivers would know he was very mentally compromised at the time.  However, my husband's brothers spent $80,000 of their father's estate on lawyers to fight each other (the 2 co-executors).  Then the judge rules the whole estate must pay for the legal fees.  So all 4 of them lost $20,000, even the two that couldn't fight it.

 

I don't think my dad would like his estate spent on legal fees!

 

Hyacinth

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@hyacinth003 wrote:

In the ongoing saga of my father's passing, I have just found out something else.

 

I have access to one of his accounts, a checking account.  I am writing checks to pay bills, and monitoring it for credits and debits that were set up automatically.  I have been notifying those who he did business with that he has passed away.

 

For example, the company he got a pension from (to stop it), his insurance company (to cancel his policies), find out how to file claims on policies that may owe his estate, etc.

 

FYI, Social Security gets notified right away by whoever handles burial or cremation.  They had posted a payment and took it away within about 24 hours!!

 

The account has some checks I cannot account for.  My dad had 4 people on his account so we could all pay for his needs or shop, etc.  So before I asked my brother and sister-in-law about them, I decided to go and look back for them.

 

What I have found out is they were using his account for all of their gasoline purchases.  I never asked for anything like this.  Then I got what is a shocker to me.  I found an almost $14,000.00 check written by my sister-in-law to a bank, with a notation on the check "Corvette."  My brother got a new Corvette around Christmas, 2018.  I was happy for him and have consistently showed interest and asked for photos, etc.  I remember my sister-in-law saying "I just paid off the Corvette."  She is an electrician and works a lot when work is available and they have no debt (to my limited knowledge).  She drives a Cadillac Escalade.  I don't care what anyone has, especially my own brother.  I am happy if he is living well.  I love him.

 

She wrote this check in July, 2019.  My father was a generous person, especially to us.  My shock comes as my dad was not mentally competent in the last months of his life.  I would have felt uncomfortable asking him for money in the last 6 months.  Maybe in a dire emergency, but not for a Corvette.  Over our lives, my dad helped me financially at times, and I assumed he helped my brother.  I never asked, and don't know.  It was his to give.

 

I am totally surprised by seeing this.

 

Hyacinth

 

 



@hyacinth003 wrote:

In the ongoing saga of my father's passing, I have just found out something else.

 

I have access to one of his accounts, a checking account.  I am writing checks to pay bills, and monitoring it for credits and debits that were set up automatically.  I have been notifying those who he did business with that he has passed away.

 

For example, the company he got a pension from (to stop it), his insurance company (to cancel his policies), find out how to file claims on policies that may owe his estate, etc.

 

FYI, Social Security gets notified right away by whoever handles burial or cremation.  They had posted a payment and took it away within about 24 hours!!

 

The account has some checks I cannot account for.  My dad had 4 people on his account so we could all pay for his needs or shop, etc.  So before I asked my brother and sister-in-law about them, I decided to go and look back for them.

 

What I have found out is they were using his account for all of their gasoline purchases.  I never asked for anything like this.  Then I got what is a shocker to me.  I found an almost $14,000.00 check written by my sister-in-law to a bank, with a notation on the check "Corvette."  My brother got a new Corvette around Christmas, 2018.  I was happy for him and have consistently showed interest and asked for photos, etc.  I remember my sister-in-law saying "I just paid off the Corvette."  She is an electrician and works a lot when work is available and they have no debt (to my limited knowledge).  She drives a Cadillac Escalade.  I don't care what anyone has, especially my own brother.  I am happy if he is living well.  I love him.

 

She wrote this check in July, 2019.  My father was a generous person, especially to us.  My shock comes as my dad was not mentally competent in the last months of his life.  I would have felt uncomfortable asking him for money in the last 6 months.  Maybe in a dire emergency, but not for a Corvette.  Over our lives, my dad helped me financially at times, and I assumed he helped my brother.  I never asked, and don't know.  It was his to give.

 

I am totally surprised by seeing this.

 

Hyacinth

 

 


   I read your first post and then this one, and I feel so very sorry for you. Your heart must be broken. I think that it all goes back to your SIL. I know that you love your brother but I think that you need to have a heart to heart talk with him about his wife and the things she has done, like this and not helping with your Fathers room. There is a reason that your Father chose you to be the executor. My Mom died last November and we haven't had any problems. Except for a check that went out to someone that she forgot to remove as a beneficiary. My son is her executor as he is in the financial field. My Dad wanted him to take care of things and he has. My Dad died in 2011 and my Mom in 2018. I wish you the best as you take care of your Fathers wishes.