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[RNbynite]

@Sooner  ITA! Same experience here.  Women in the workplace can be vicious. I also hate when women feel the need to change their looks or dress to appease men. Ladies, be yourselves, and hold your heads high......your self respect will garner respect from others.

[CalminHeart]

I'll never forget asking my VP why I was paid less than a male counterpart.

The response "He has a family."  

My response: "So do I." And I was a single parent.

[Junebug54]

@Goldengate8361   However it is then basic rights over two bodies.

[hckynutjohn]

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@CalminHeart wrote:

I'll never forget asking my VP why I was paid less than a male counterpart.

The response "He has a family."  

My response: "So do I." And I was a single parent.

@CalminHeart 

I asked several of my rotating bosses this question. "Why does XYZ get a .5 personal day, yet a have to take a, full 8 hour, personal day"? Close to the same answer you heard from your VP. "He has a family, you are single". Had nothing to do with my gender.

However, being a Union job? I spent months seeing to it that my marital or childless family had nothing to do with Personal Days. We either all get it, or nobody gets it. That ended 1 of my many "you're single" status nonsense battles with my bosses, The Company.

hckynut 🇺🇸

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[We rescue cats]

I entered the work force in 1971 as a stewardess (pre-flight attendant days!). We had to be single, young, and were housed in what they called 'stew zoos' with sign in and sign out sheets to keep a close eye on us! LOL!!! We weighed in daily, had to keep spare stockings with us at all times and our hair off our necks, makeup in place...oh my the rules. Eventually I opened a travel agency in 1988 or 89, and when I went to the bank to request some help with financing they asked for my husband's signature, since obviously this was not a 'real' company but one to keep me occupied...... Things have changed today, I think women are now considered to be real business people and deserving of the respect we all have worked so hard to obtain, women are now leaders.

[lgfan]

Some things have not changed too much. I had to have extensive dental work about ten years ago. I was going to use a payment plan for the procedure. The office manager asked me if I owned or rented my house. I said that i owned my condominium. She then asked me if it was a settlement from my ex-husband in a divorce. I told I have never been married and that I bought my house on my own. She looked surprised.

[Group 5 minus 1]

Your husband had to sign off because of the nature of the surgery. Had to do w/the place where surgeries were done protecting themselves.

If your husband had a vasectomy you would have had to sign off.

[jubilant]

I think things have changed but we still have a ways to go.  It starts in the home. Mom and Dad  taught us  that all people were created equal. No racists comments were welcome and if one slipped out we were immediately punished for it.

We had friends of all colors and women and men were equally important. I think prejudice... whether it be men or women or race begins in the home.  What kids hear  at home can make a big impression on them.  In the case of women, I think we have come a long ways. Sadly, there will always be unfairness in this world and we will never completely be rid of it but starting by teaching our children at a young age couldn't hurt. 

[tarsmom]

When I went to high school I took typing and shorthand to someday be a secretary.  

I used shorthand for about 10 years and then bosses preferred to write letters on a yellow legal pad and I'd type from that.  

I became an insurance agent in the late 70's and was one of three women in a college class of 26 men (this was 1986).

Then I transferred occupations to banking, working in lending.  Eventually, I became the Call Center Mgr.  (early 90s).  By this time, more women were managers than in the past. I became a branch manager in 2000 until my retirement in 2020.  There were still men walking into my office looking for a MAN for the manager.  

Never ever did I think in the early 70s that I would EVER become a manager of anything - all I wanted to do and was expected to do was be a secretary.  

I was fortunate to work for good companies who BELIEVED in women bosses.  

[Sooner]

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@grandma r wrote:

Some things have changed since the '40s and '50s, yet, other things have gone backwards.  Women are seen as individuals today in some circumstances; in other circumstances,  we aren't allowed to make our own decisions. There are still workplaces that pay men far more than women doing the same jobs.  Unions have helped with that, but, there are still places who forbid unionizing.

Our clothing has drastically changed over the years.  Back in the '50s and even early '60s a woman was always dressed to go out, even grocery shopping.  Hats and gloves were the norm.

Imo women will never be seen as truly equal to men as long as the rules are made by older men.  And, a lot has to do with where these men live.  Some areas of our country still view women as property.  Sadly, these are facts and not political. 

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@grandma r Neither are the scantily dressed women who troll for a male way up the ladder in the office and cheat deserving women out of the promotions and salaries they so richly deserve.