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[RinaRina]

I was watching a Netflix movie about the history of unions & the mafia ("The Irishman").  There's a part in the movie where Jimmy Hoffa (Al Pacino) says to Sheeran (Robert DeNiro), "if someone is late for a meeting, then, they don't respect you."

THAT BOTHERED ME because I had a meeting scheduled (at an unspecified time) with an upper level manager on Tuesday about something that happened on the job.  I suggested she meet with the other two people first and then meet with me and she complied. It was already late ... close to 5:45 PM. 

At 6:15PM, I ran into her in the hall and asked if "now is okay".

She said "no" because she'd just finished up with the first "two people", but had to meet with another team because they had an emergency with another team member.  (That team member had already told me earlier (in confidence) she was turning in her "notice".)

I did NOT want to stay after 6:30 PM, so, I said, "okay we can talk tomorrow".

She said she couldn't because she was going out of town for Thanksgiving.

I said, "okay, then, I'll see you when you get back."

I thought I was being nice .. and agreeable.  THEN I SAW THE MOVIE and that line stuck with me. 

[Sheila P-Burg]

@RinaRina  .... How can you be late for a meeting that has an "unspecified" time?

[RinaRina]

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@Sheila P-Burg wrote:

@RinaRina  .... How can you be late for a meeting that has an "unspecified" time?

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My meeting did NOT occur.   The window of time available was very short ....The manager showed up at the facility around 5:45PM, and we close at 6:30PM.   Personally, I consider that poor time management.  But in the movie, Jimmy Hoffa called it "a lack of respect".

However, I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt.  If it's Thanksgiving week and you're swamped and overscheduled .... then okay.

As I said, I thought I was being polite and agreeable.  Then, I saw the movie ... and felt I was a low priority.  It's kind of insulting to tell someone you're going to meet with them ... and then, run out of time .. and can't.

[CrazyDaisy]

I don't see the connection either.

[CrazyDaisy]

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@RinaRina wrote:

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@Sheila P-Burg wrote:

@RinaRina  .... How can you be late for a meeting that has an "unspecified" time?

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My meeting did NOT occur.   The window of time availabe was very short ....The manager showed up at the facility around 5:45PM, and we close at 6:30PM.   Personally, I consider that poor time management.  But in the movie, Jimmy Hoffa called it "a lack of respect".

However, I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt.  If it's Thanksgiving week and you're swamped and overscheduled .... then okay.

As I said, I thought I was being polite and agreeable.  Then, I saw the movie ... and felt I was a low priority.

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Actually sounds like something more important needed attention.  Management often needs to prioritize time and resources, some issues are low priority.

[x Hedge]

If the day is specified, but not the time, I would've made myself available for whatever time that day was convenient to the manager.

You didn't.

She asked to meet with you earlier, but you dodged it.

Now it becomes incumbent upon you to wait.

Even if that means after 6:30.

[Love my grandkids]

@RinaRina IMO it's a line in a movie (which I've watched) and nothing more.

[RinaRina]

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@CrazyDaisy wrote:

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Actually sounds like something more important needed attention.  Management often needs to prioritize time and resources, some issues are low priority.

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Okay.  You got my point, and answered my question.

I was a "low-priority" in her book.

Fine with me!

[CrazyDaisy]

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@RinaRina wrote:

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@CrazyDaisy wrote:

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Actually sounds like something more important needed attention.  Management often needs to prioritize time and resources, some issues are low priority.

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Okay.  You got my point, and answered my question.

I was a "low-priority" in her book.

Fine with me!

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I didn't say "you" were the low priority, however the issue may have been.

[x Hedge]

"It's kind of insulting to tell someone you're going to meet with them ... and then, run out of time .. and can't."

     Yes, and that's just what you did.

Not only that, but you made your meeting into a leftover 'to-do' task, that now has to be moved into rotation with the new week's 'to-do' list. 

 Very annoying.