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[Cakers3]

Women are so much more than their menstrual cycles.  No man in my family would ever use the expression "on the rag".  Talk about being stuck in the days of Donna Reed.

*eyeroll*

[Irshgrl31201]

If women can pass the same test that the men do then I am all for it. I think that is fair. There are a lot of tough women out there and if they can pass the same tests that the men have to go through with no exceptions then they deserve to be there.

I am a little confused though because I have read they passed and were given no special treatment and then I read there were given special treatment. That both female officers twice failed the first phase and were allowed to retry. It said that while redos do happen it is rare and especially rare for soldiers to be allowed to start over from the beginning after failing the same phase twice. It doesn't sound like that is the norm. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/how-did-these-two-women-become-the-first-to-c...

[jubilant]

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@Cakers3 wrote:

Women are so much more than their menstrual cycles.  No man in my family would ever use the expression "on the rag".  Talk about being stuck in the days of Donna Reed.

*eyeroll*

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************  I understand that and I hesitated to type it but I decided to say it just like he did.  It is what he....and a lot of his buddies think and it is the word they use. That is not what I call it....but if you have ever lived around or on an Army barracks or been with a group of soldiers....it is a very common phrase.

By the way, what do you think women used in the "Little House On The Prarie Day's"?  I never heard it until I got married.  My mom would have been mortified and Dad never said it but DH does. "eyeroll"  What can I say.  Don't take it so seriously.  There are worse things in life!

[Say Nay]

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@Melania wrote:

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@NevaehsMom58 wrote:

We women have come too far to go back to the Donna Reed, barefoot-in-the-kitchen era.  

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ITA!! But there is a crew that here seem to be stuck in a time warp. 

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Since I have no idea who Donna Reed is I'm not sure the above was intended to be an insult. 

Did any of you read the Daily Beast a few days ago? There was a very interesting article, "She Kills People From 7850 miles Miles Away."

It begins with, "Her name is 'Sparkle'. She operates a drone. She is sick of whiny boys. And she is perfectly OK with dealing out death."

Here are some snips:

"...As she rode to work, Anne--or "Sparkle" as she's known to her fellow drone operators-- wasn't focused on the desert outside her window. It was 2009 and President O* was sending troops in a surge to Afghanistan. Sparkle's mind was on a desert 7,000 miles away. Over the next 24 hours she would track an insurgent, watch as he was killed by a Hellfire missile, and spy on his funeral before ending her night with a breakfast beer and trip to the dog park...

...(Sparkle) started as an imagery analyst, scouring satellite images for signs of militant activity. Then she got transferred to the remotely piloted aircraft program. She earned the call sign because her headset has bedazzled jewels running along the headband and earpieces...

..."I use it to emasculate the enemy in the afterlife," Sparkle said. "Many radical j*had*sts believe that being killed by a woman means they will never enter heaven. Considering how they treat their women, I'm OK with rubbing salt in the wound."...

...After targeting the enemy and releasing a Hellfire missile while making sure the target is in the "frag pattern", hit by shrapnel, Sparkle's thoughts on the dead enemy, "It's just a dead body. I grew elbows deep in dead deer. We do what we need to do. He's dead. Now we're going to watch him get buried."...

Yes, women are already fully involved in the military. And the story in the Daily Beast proves women have the skills equal to men to complete the mission. I have no objection to women participating in killing. I have no objection to women slaughtering the enemy and observing their funerals. But as far as the 3 women in the Rangers only time will tell how they do on the ground facing the enemy in combat and how they deal with death face to face. 

[jubilant]

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@jubilant wrote:

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@Cakers3 wrote:

Women are so much more than their menstrual cycles.  No man in my family would ever use the expression "on the rag".  Talk about being stuck in the days of Donna Reed.

*eyeroll*

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************  I understand that and I hesitated to type it but I decided to say it just like he did.  It is what he....and a lot of his buddies think and it is the word they use. That is not what I call it....but if you have ever lived around or on an Army barracks or been with a group of soldiers....it is a very common phrase.

By the way, what do you think women used in the "Little House On The Prarie Day's"?  I never heard it until I got married.  My mom would have been mortified and Dad never said it but DH does. "eyeroll"  What can I say.  Don't take it so seriously.  There are worse things in life!

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*********  Cakers3.....I have thought about this a little more and am sorry if I offended you.  I have lived with DH for 46 yrs. and am just used to it.  I guess I should have realized not everyone is. 

[NoelSeven]

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@jubilant wrote:

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@jubilant wrote:

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@Cakers3 wrote:

Women are so much more than their menstrual cycles.  No man in my family would ever use the expression "on the rag".  Talk about being stuck in the days of Donna Reed.

*eyeroll*

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************  I understand that and I hesitated to type it but I decided to say it just like he did.  It is what he....and a lot of his buddies think and it is the word they use. That is not what I call it....but if you have ever lived around or on an Army barracks or been with a group of soldiers....it is a very common phrase.

By the way, what do you think women used in the "Little House On The Prarie Day's"?  I never heard it until I got married.  My mom would have been mortified and Dad never said it but DH does. "eyeroll"  What can I say.  Don't take it so seriously.  There are worse things in life!

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*********  Cakers3.....I have thought about this a little more and am sorry if I offended you.  I have lived with DH for 46 yrs. and am just used to it.  I guess I should have realized not everyone is. 

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Jubilant,

I hear you about this is how your husband talks, and I agree it was more prevalent decades ago.  Now it's considered disrespectful to women.  It's a natural female process, one that allowed your DH to come into this world.

Something you and he may not know, but there are ways for women to skip periods on demand with the use of BC and other pills.

Women astronauts have used them.

You are talking about almost 50 years ago. Our troops are now fighting side by side with not only women, but gay people.  If they can't handle that, maybe they should be desk jockeys.

[NoelSeven]

We have a family friend who was a nurse in Vietnam.  She was on the front lines and in as much danger as the men.

And remember Jessica Lynch?  2002, on the lines as a unit supply specialist when her convoy was ambushed by Iraqi forces, she was seriously injured.  Later rescued, she was the first rescue of an American POW since Vietnam.

Women have been in combat since the American Revolution, they just haven't been acknowledged.

[foundinlv]

Jessica Lynch was a 19-year-old supply clerk with the 507th Maintenance Company,  She was injured and captured by Iraqi forces after her group made a wrong turn and was subsequently ambushed on March 23, 2003 near Nasiriyah, a major crossing point over the Euphrates River northwest of Basra. She was initially listed as missing in action (MIA). Eleven other soldiers in the company were killed in the ambush.  

On April 24, 2007 she testified in front of Congress that she never fired her weapon and was knocked unconscious when her vehicle crashed.  She woke up later in an Iraqi hospital.

She blamed the media and the military of lying for their own gain. She said during her testimony, "They should have found out the facts before they spread the word like wildfire."

[NoelSeven]

Bottom line: Jessica Lynch was a woman on the front lines with men also in the vehicle.

We've had many, and quite a few who died during the Iraq war.  If some want to belittle those women, shame on them.

[foundinlv]

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@NoelSeven wrote:

Bottom line: Jessica Lynch was a woman on the front lines with men also in the vehicle.

We've had many, and quite a few who died during the Iraq war.  If some want to belittle those women, shame on them.

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My information comes from HER website.  She never wanted to be called a hero but a survivor.  

http://www.jessica-lynch.com/

http://www.lawyerherald.com/articles/3062/20130402/jessica-lynch-rescue-during-war-iraq-story-rememb...