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06-05-2014 02:14 AM
On 6/4/2014 wookie said:On 6/4/2014 occasional rain said:Do you have any personal experience with this issue. How dare you insinuate an adopted child is a parent's second choice. I believe my life played out exactly the way it was supposed to play out. And i am GLAD i was unable to have children because if I had, I wouldn't have my son. A birth parent doesn't know what child they will get either. They give birth to A CHILD, and love it immediately, and with all their heart. It is exactly the same for an adoptive parent.On 6/4/2014 sidsmom said:Being adopted is looking at life half-empty or half-full. Half-full would be....my parents CHOSE me...they wanted me so much, they went to allllll this trouble of adoption just to pick me. I don't understand all the "woe is me".
But that's not really true. Adoptive parents don't choose the child, the child is chosen for them unless they adopt an older child who was in foster care.
People who adopt newborns, the ads are in every newspaper and online, do so as a second choice when they are unable to conceive. So for these adoptive parents to tell the child he was chosen is a lie the child will know was a lie when he is old enough to reason.
I didn't insinuate anything, I came right out and said it. Most people adopt babies because they are unable to conceive. People adopt older children because they love children.
So adoption was a decision you made because you were unable to have children. How is that not a second choice?
No where did I post that adopted children weren't loved.
06-05-2014 02:20 AM
On 6/4/2014 occasional rain said:No, it isn't a second choice for many who adopt. It's meant to be. When I found out I had cancer, I told my husband I felt it happened because we were SUPPOSED to adopt our children. Life was playing out for us the way God intended.The only one who doesn't have a choice is the adoptee. They have NO choice. That decision is made for them when they are relinquished.On 6/4/2014 wookie said:On 6/4/2014 occasional rain said:Do you have any personal experience with this issue. How dare you insinuate an adopted child is a parent's second choice. I believe my life played out exactly the way it was supposed to play out. And i am GLAD i was unable to have children because if I had, I wouldn't have my son. A birth parent doesn't know what child they will get either. They give birth to A CHILD, and love it immediately, and with all their heart. It is exactly the same for an adoptive parent.On 6/4/2014 sidsmom said:Being adopted is looking at life half-empty or half-full. Half-full would be....my parents CHOSE me...they wanted me so much, they went to allllll this trouble of adoption just to pick me. I don't understand all the "woe is me".
But that's not really true. Adoptive parents don't choose the child, the child is chosen for them unless they adopt an older child who was in foster care.
People who adopt newborns, the ads are in every newspaper and online, do so as a second choice when they are unable to conceive. So for these adoptive parents to tell the child he was chosen is a lie the child will know was a lie when he is old enough to reason.
I didn't insinuate anything, I came right out and said it. Most people adopt babies because they are unable to conceive. People adopt older children because they love children.
So adoption was a decision you made because you were unable to have children. How is that not a second choice?
No where did I post that adopted children weren't loved.
06-05-2014 02:24 AM
On 6/4/2014 ShowMe said:On 6/4/2014 occasional rain said:On 6/4/2014 sidsmom said:Being adopted is looking at life half-empty or half-full. Half-full would be....my parents CHOSE me...they wanted me so much, they went to allllll this trouble of adoption just to pick me. I don't understand all the "woe is me".
But that's not really true. Adoptive parents don't choose the child, the child is chosen for them unless they adopt an older child who was in foster care.
People who adopt newborns, the ads are in every newspaper and online, do so as a second choice when they are unable to conceive. So for these adoptive parents to tell the child he was chosen is a lie the child will know was a lie when he is old enough to reason.
OccasionalRain.......the adoptive parents usually don't have the choice of what baby they want, but the choice is theirs to make to become adoptive parents......and that is a choice, so in my book, any adopted child has been a chosen child to be placed in that particular home. No, it's really not a lie to tell the child he/she was chosen.
Well then would natural parents tell their child he was chosen? No they wouldn't because to be chosen means deciding between two or more.
There are exceptions, adoption parties are held to allow foster children who are available to be adopted and potential adoptive parents to meet. An adoption may follow after the child and potential parent get to know one another over time. In that case the child is chosen as are his adoptive parents.
06-05-2014 03:11 AM
I think I would need to be told, I would sense adoption. Hey, was I adopted? Is that why you keep calling me your pending child?
06-05-2014 03:50 AM
On 6/4/2014 occasional rain said:The reason the word chosen was used in the story was to open up a dialogue with the child about adoption and what it means. Experts feel a child should know the truth from the very moment they are able to understand. That happens in baby steps. The author chose to use the word chosen to show a very young child, a toddler understand that first and foremost, they are loved. Thus begins a dialogue that lasts for years, understanding takes place in teeny tiny steps. A typical, but not all, adoptive child goes through a period of grieving the loss of their birth parent. It can take years for them to fully come to terms with it. As far as I'm concerned the child's emotional health is what matters, and handling it right is crucial to that. The storybook is just one method used. It was recommended to us, and we thought the book was helpful. Others might use a different method of introducing the topic. The child doesn't literally feel chosen. They understand the reality of the situation. Maybe not when they are toddlers, but at some point in early childhood, they know they were relinquished.On 6/4/2014 ShowMe said:On 6/4/2014 occasional rain said:On 6/4/2014 sidsmom said:Being adopted is looking at life half-empty or half-full. Half-full would be....my parents CHOSE me...they wanted me so much, they went to allllll this trouble of adoption just to pick me. I don't understand all the "woe is me".
But that's not really true. Adoptive parents don't choose the child, the child is chosen for them unless they adopt an older child who was in foster care.
People who adopt newborns, the ads are in every newspaper and online, do so as a second choice when they are unable to conceive. So for these adoptive parents to tell the child he was chosen is a lie the child will know was a lie when he is old enough to reason.
OccasionalRain.......the adoptive parents usually don't have the choice of what baby they want, but the choice is theirs to make to become adoptive parents......and that is a choice, so in my book, any adopted child has been a chosen child to be placed in that particular home. No, it's really not a lie to tell the child he/she was chosen.
Well then would natural parents tell their child he was chosen? No they wouldn't because to be chosen means deciding between two or more.
There are exceptions, adoption parties are held to allow foster children who are available to be adopted and potential adoptive parents to meet. An adoption may follow after the child and potential parent get to know one another over time. In that case the child is chosen as are his adoptive parents.
06-05-2014 04:41 AM
I think it would be pretty obvious if they are Asians and I have red hair and freckles.
06-05-2014 09:31 AM
Yes, and there have been times during my life that I wish I had found out that I was adopted. Sad, but true.
06-05-2014 09:37 AM
06-05-2014 10:54 AM
Since I wasn't adopted, I can't really say if I'd want to know. It would depend on many factors. I did want to say, however, that I used to keep infants until they went to their adoptive homes.
I can only hope and pray that they all have a good life.
Children's Aid Society of Philadelphia.
One of the nurses I worked with years later was adopted, and she had hoped that she was one of the children I took care of. Because of the dates , we knew she wasn't. I always had a special fondness for her anyway.
06-05-2014 10:56 AM
yes, I would.
My brother was adopted and as soon as he was able to understand my parents were very open with him about it.
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