Wellness

[Mmsfoxxie]

On 1/3/2014 VaBelle35 said:

Another great thing about this Simple Start/Two Week Plan is that after you go on vacation or have a long holiday season like we just had, this Simple Start is a way to get back into the program again and re-start/jump start.

So in that regard, I would say it's like Induction or Attack (in Dukan) where you go back to that to re-start and get that jump you need.

I just don't think it's going to be a huge weight loss like you see with Attack and Induction, so I want to temper people's expectations.

Well, thanks so much for the indebted explanation of Simple Start, LaBelle35. I, for one, love Points Plus....I just fell off the wagon. I downloaded SS a few days ago to my iPad so I am definitely going to give it a long look. I so appreciate the time you took to explain things to us. Are you a WW leader? If not, you should be.

[MariotaMurielle]

On 1/3/2014 Mmsfoxxie said:

On 1/3/2014 VaBelle35 said:

Another great thing about this Simple Start/Two Week Plan is that after you go on vacation or have a long holiday season like we just had, this Simple Start is a way to get back into the program again and re-start/jump start.

So in that regard, I would say it's like Induction or Attack (in Dukan) where you go back to that to re-start and get that jump you need.

I just don't think it's going to be a huge weight loss like you see with Attack and Induction, so I want to temper people's expectations.

Well, thanks so much for the indebted explanation of Simple Start, LaBelle35. I, for one, love Points Plus....I just fell off the wagon. I downloaded SS a few days ago to my iPad so I am definitely going to give it a long look. I so appreciate the time you took to explain things to us. Are you a WW leader? If not, you should be.

I downloaded SS a few days ago to my iPad so I am definitely going to give it a long look.

I've been looking at the WW website today, hoping to find some specifics on the new Simple Start plan. unless I'm doing something wrong, I can't see how to find any information without actually joining the WW program first. I want some information before I make the decision to join or not. were you able to you download the program without joining?

[Mmsfoxxie]

On 1/3/2014 Mochahoney said:

On 1/3/2014 Mmsfoxxie said:

On 1/3/2014 VaBelle35 said:

Another great thing about this Simple Start/Two Week Plan is that after you go on vacation or have a long holiday season like we just had, this Simple Start is a way to get back into the program again and re-start/jump start.

So in that regard, I would say it's like Induction or Attack (in Dukan) where you go back to that to re-start and get that jump you need.

I just don't think it's going to be a huge weight loss like you see with Attack and Induction, so I want to temper people's expectations.

Well, thanks so much for the indebted explanation of Simple Start, LaBelle35. I, for one, love Points Plus....I just fell off the wagon. I downloaded SS a few days ago to my iPad so I am definitely going to give it a long look. I so appreciate the time you took to explain things to us. Are you a WW leader? If not, you should be.

I downloaded SS a few days ago to my iPad so I am definitely going to give it a long look.

I've been looking at the WW website today, hoping to find some specifics on the new Simple Start plan. unless I'm doing something wrong, I can't see how to find any information without actually joining the WW program first. I want some information before I make the decision to join or not. were you able to you download the program without joining?

Mochahoney, I am a Lifetime Member of WW. At this time last year, I was soooo proud of myself. I fell off the wagon this summer going through some personal stress and stopped watching what I ate and my portion control. I believe I was able to download Simple Start from a WW email to my Ipad.

[VaBelle35]

Thank you No, I'm not a leader. I have been asked many times but I don't have the constitution that it takes to be a leader. I could be a receptionist, though, if I ever lose my job or retire. WW doesn't give out all the details of the plan until you plunk down your money. The information will be out there in full soon enough as people attend meetings this week and get their materials. I won't get my materials until Tuesday. I do not do the Monthly Pass or eTools, so I can't see the materials online either. You can attend a meeting for free and listen to the presentation after the meeting and then decide to join and pay. I think the joining fee is free right now, you just pay $14.00 for the meeting if you want the materials to take home. It is $14 in a WW corporate location and more in a Franchise location. There is a map on WW.com that tells you the pricing for your location.

[Mistreatedbycs]

On 1/3/2014 LipstickDiva said:

On 1/3/2014 VaBelle35 said:

26 is the lowest now. They changed that 2 years ago. They changed it a year aftet Points Plus rolled out because 29 was too high for many.

I go to weekly meetings because i love that part of WW but I count calories a n d track on Sparkpeople. I don't like the way Points Plus calculates for the way i eat.

If they ever change the calculations I'll count points again.

Thanks. I'm sorry. I knew it was 26. Duh. I was just there within the last 6 moths.

I would have to think there are in fact issues with all the "free" fruits. I know during one of the more recent meetings I attended, the leader said if you are having problems losing and are eating a lot of fruit, you might want to look into scaling back some. That to me says the fruit isn't free and should be pointed.

I remember at least a year ago, the leader gave us a smoothie recipe that included frozen fruit, diet 7-up and fat free jello powder all blended together. Everything in it is free but when she called WW to ask, they told her it had to be counted. I believe it was 2 points per 8oz glass. That seemed odd to me.

Your recipe was just like the one WW published around Thanksgiving, it was for a squash bake, everything was "free" but yet calculated to 2 points too. I asked the leader that exact question and she rolled her eyes and said once you mix free foods WW calculates them as 2 points per serving. Guess it didn't make any sense to me and apparently to her either.

I don't know I'm even on WW, seriously, I have learned to limit my fats, eat a lot healthier and get educated when buying groceries. Who would of known not to buy foods with saturated fats, foods that look like they are healthy and find they are no good for you. I was one of those people who buy for "packaging", if it looks good it must be good. I'm sure there are more of me out there.

I'm happy with the gradual change, my clothes feel so much better now and I've even donated a lot already. I am bound and determined to keep with the meetings and follow the program to the best of my ability...no one is perfect.

The new kit for 2014 has an excellent book in it, if you don't buy the kit, find someone who did and ask to borrow this book, it's perfect, gets you in the right mindset and you just need to stop beating up yourself over little slip ups or even a bad week. This is life and one needs to know there is no one that is perfect and just believing in yourself is over 50% success.

[VaBelle35]

The way the recipes work in the recipe builder is that WW believes that all foods should be counted in the recipe builder, even if they are zero points but have calories. There is a blurb in a pop up box on the recipe builder that has the exact terminology. It is also in WW magazine (I think it's fine print in the very back of the magazine) about it, too.

The basic premise is that WW wants their NI to match NI for other recipes that are not in WW Magazine or developed by WW. So if you get a recipe from Cooking Light, the NI will have all the food calcualted, not just the ones with WW points.

What people do (and this is not sanctioned by WW) is they just don't put the zero point foods in the recipe builder. So if you have a recipe with squash, spinach, onion and kale, you don't enter those in Recipe Builder. YOu just put in the beans and the cheese and whatever else has points.

Is that the right way to do it? Who knows. It's one of those "let your weight loss be your guide." If it's just one meal in a week, it won't kill you. But if you are single like me and you eat all 4 or 6 servings in a week, it many impact my loss at the scale.

There are also positions people have about chewing vs not chewing (smoothies vs whole fruit) and body hunger and mind hunger. If you eat a whole apple and you eat the same amount of unsweetened apple sauce, are you hungry sooner with the apple sauce? Is it because it took you longer to eat the whole apple than the applesauce? Or is it because your body has to break down the apple but doesn't have to break down the applesauce?

This is why I track on Sparkpeople and put everythign I eat in there (including herbs and condiments). It's much easier and more exact for me.

Before Points Plus, the math was much more exact. The points were 50 calories = 1 point and that allowed you to keep within a certain calorie range in the week. And you had a float because some things calculated out to zero and some calculated out to 2, so if you messed up a little somewhere in there, you had that cushion.

For example, my sugar packets are 40 calories. Under Momentum, it would have been 1point (which gave me 10 calories of a float). When you add up all those 10 calories here, 15 calories there, at the end of the day/end of your WW week, you would have all these extra calories that were hidden. So if you had a latte at Starbucks and you tracked it as 4 and it was really 6, you wouldn't have a problem because you probably had 100 calories hidden somewhere to make up for those 2 points that you miscalculated. (Hope that makes sense).

There is no cushion in the calculation any more. So if you go over a little, it shows right up on the scale. A point is roughly (35, 38 or 40 calories depending upon who you talk to). It's not in the WW patent like the 50 calories was in the WW Patent for Momentum. Because a point doesn't correllate to calories anymore, you lose that exactness. I could eat a certain way for a week and I could get on that scale Tuesday morning and know I would lose .8. You can't do that anymore. It's always a surprise at the scale because you think you did well and it turns out you did not.