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@Ainhisg, that sounds awful.  Glad you got it worked out.  Hopefully, I will too, and quickly although I have to wait a couple of weeks even to get in to see her.

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@Icegoddess  My doctor wants me off of estrogen now that I’m older and used the estrogen patches for many years.  He says the hot flashes I now have will eventually end. I’m not so sure about that!

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Oh, Ladies I am sitting here sympathizing with you.  My hot flash days were minimal because I had a great female Gyn who I found after dealing with other doctors.  In the beginning I was put on two different pills which took away all the hot flashes, however, due to the fear of developing cancer, doctor's became leery of prescribing hormone therapy which left many of us suffering.


I remember that one of the pills in particular was a danger but can't remember the name of it.  The estrogen pill is the one my new doctor prescribed for me, something like 0.5 mil, a tiny pill that took all the flashes away for good.


My daughter currently just started menopause and oh Lord, the dramatics!!!!  You would think her life is coming to an end.  I reminded her that every woman goes through this, not just her and getting in a car with her during the winter isn't  any fun since she immediately turns on the AC.  She has an appointment with a supposedly excellent Gyn in February and I told her about the estrogen pill suggesting she mention it to him just to get his reaction.  Hopefully he gives  her something before I lose my mind listening to her complaints.  Good luck to all of you who are dealing with the discomfort of being a female.  One thing for sure, men would never be able to deal with the things we strong, amazing women have to put up with.

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My bleeding issues started at age 48.   After testing, my OB/GYN prescribed 10 mg of Provera daily, which took care of all of my issues; I took the medication for 12 years.   


My doctor has a PhD in his field, so I trusted him completely to stay on this low dose med for so long.   He assured me the benefits outweighed the low risk.   I went off the drug 2 years ago.   

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Lindsays Grandma,


I read your reply about your daughter and what she's going through and my daughter sounds like your daughter's sister.  I get all types of questions and I think since she has a computer and searching she seems to have every symptom.  I said to her that I went through it alone, my mother passed, and I just dealt with it until the hot flashes took over my body and mind.  I did go on HRT but did end up with breast cancer in 4 years.  She was like that with her pregnancies, I never knew all the things pregnant women went through and I never had any problem and even delivered my first on her due date.  It's a whole new world today.  i tell her to stay off the computer.  One thing for sure, menopause will pass eventually.



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“What are the benefits of hormone therapy?


The benefits of hormone therapy depend, in part, on whether you take systemic hormone therapy or low-dose vaginal preparations of estrogen.

  • Systemic hormone therapy. Systemic estrogen — which comes in pill, skin patch, gel, cream or spray form — remains the most effective treatment for the relief of troublesome menopausal hot flashes and night sweats. Estrogen can also ease vaginal symptoms of menopause, such as dryness, itching, burning and discomfort with intercourse.


    Combined estrogen and progesterone therapy may reduce the risk of colon cancer. Some data also suggest that estrogen can decrease the risk of heart disease when taken early in the postmenopausal years. Systemic estrogen helps protect against the bone-thinning disease called osteoporosis. However, doctors usually recommend medications called bisphosphonates to treat osteoporosis.

  • Low-dose vaginal products. Low-dose vaginal preparations of estrogen — which come in cream, tablet or ring form — can effectively treat vaginal symptoms and some urinary symptoms while minimizing absorption into the body. Low-dose vaginal preparations do not help with hot flashes, night sweats or protection against osteoporosis.

If you haven't had your uterus removed, your doctor will typically prescribe estrogen along with progesterone or progestin (progesterone-like medication). This is because estrogen alone, when not balanced by progesterone, can stimulate growth of the lining of the uterus, increasing the risk of uterine cancer. If you have had your uterus removed (hysterectomy), you don't need to take progestin.

What are the risks of hormone therapy?


In the largest clinical trial to date, a combination estrogen-progestin pill (Prempro) increased the risk of certain serious conditions, including:

  • Heart disease
  • Stroke
  • Blood clots
  • Breast cancer

Subsequent studies have suggested that these risks vary, depending on age. For example, women who begin hormone therapy more than 10 or 20 years from the onset of menopause or at age 60 or older are at greater risk of the above conditions. But if hormone therapy is started before the age of 60 or within 10 years of menopause, the benefits appear to outweigh the risks.


The risks of hormone therapy may also vary depending on whether estrogen is given alone or with progestin, the dose and type of estrogen, and other health factors such as your risks of heart and blood vessel (cardiovascular) disease, cancer risks, and family medical history.

All of these risks should be considered in deciding whether hormone therapy might be an option for you.

Who should consider hormone therapy?


Despite its health risks, systemic estrogen is still the most effective treatment for menopausal symptoms. The benefits of hormone therapy may outweigh the risks if you're healthy and you:

  • Experience moderate to severe hot flashes or other menopausal symptoms
  • Have lost bone mass and either can't tolerate or aren't benefiting from other treatments
  • Stopped having periods before age 40 (premature menopause) or lost normal function of your ovaries before age 40 (premature ovarian insufficiency)

Women who experience early menopause, particularly those who had their ovaries removed and don't take estrogen therapy until at least age 45, have a higher risk of:

  • Osteoporosis
  • Heart disease
  • Earlier death
  • Parkinson's-like symptoms (parkinsonism)
  • Anxiety or depression

For women who reach menopause prematurely, the protective benefits of hormone therapy usually outweigh the risks.

Your age, type of menopause and time since menopause play significant roles in the risks associated with hormone therapy. Talk with your doctor about your personal risks.

Who should avoid hormone therapy?


Women who have or previously had breast cancer, ovarian cancer, endometrial cancer, blood clots in the legs or lungs, stroke, liver disease, or unexplained vaginal bleeding should usually not take hormone therapy.

If you aren't bothered by menopausal symptoms and started menopause after age 45, you do not need hormone therapy to stay healthy. Instead, talk to your doctor about strategies to reduce the risk of conditions such as osteoporosis and heart disease. These strategies might include lifestyle changes and medications other than hormone therapy for long-term protection.


If you take hormone therapy, how can you reduce risk?


Talk to your doctor about these strategies:

  • Find the best product and delivery method for you. You can take estrogen in the form of a pill, patch, gel, vaginal cream, or slow-releasing suppository or ring that you place in your ******. If you experience only vaginal symptoms related to menopause, estrogen in a low-dose vaginal cream, tablet or ring is usually a better choice than an oral pill or a skin patch.
  • Minimize the amount of medication you take. Use the lowest effective dose for the shortest amount of time needed to treat symptoms, unless you're younger than age 45, in which case you need enough estrogen to provide protection against the long-term health effects of estrogen deficiency. If you have lasting menopausal symptoms that significantly impair your quality of life, your doctor may recommend longer term treatment.
  • Seek regular follow-up care. See your doctor regularly to ensure that the benefits of hormone therapy continue to outweigh the risks, and for screenings such as mammograms and pelvic exams.
  • Make healthy-lifestyle choices. Include physical activity and exercise in your daily routine, eat a healthy diet, maintain a healthy weight, don't smoke, limit alcohol, manage stress, and manage chronic health conditions, such as high cholesterol or high blood pressure.

If you haven't had a hysterectomy and are using systemic estrogen therapy, you'll also need progestin. Your doctor can help you find the delivery method that offers the most benefits and convenience with the least risks and cost.”



From the Mayo Clinic

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I would try maca, vitex, iodine, and bio-identical progesterone.  

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Did you try progesterone cream? I am so surprised drs are still pushing estrogen on post meno women given its history.
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Yes the progesterone cream really helped me and you do need to educate yourself before letting a dr play with your hormones with prescribing patches along with pills, etc.
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Re: Meno Pause?

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Wow! I'm still reeling at what the OP said that her doctor kept her on the pill till she was near 60? Seriously? My doctor cut me off at 35. Done. No more pill for me. 

"Pure Michigan"