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Re: Measles making a comeback?

On 1/25/2015 javala said:
On 1/25/2015 javala said:
On 1/25/2015 dooBdoo said:
On 1/25/2015 AnotherView2 said:

Beware. Vaccinationcouncil.org is an anti vaccination website. So, naturally their view will be skewed.

Exactly.

javala, I'm not going to quote Post #101, but as several of us wrote in previous posts you are reading and quoting from a dreadfully unreliable, unscientific, website created to promote the anti-vaccine movement.

It doesn't serve your position well to keep using such sites as references.{#emotions_dlg.unsure}

(eta: I try to make a point of not repeating posts which contain bad info, because I think every time it's repeated it gains more unwarranted "life.")

You want it get it who is stopping you, just leave the rest of us who don't want it alone also allowing others to think for themselves by having all the information be available...

this is the trouble with group think every one is to make the group feel better by complying with their amber color view of the world...

BTW how can that site be so dreadful when they produce such minds like the owners of Google Rudolf Steiner is the founder of the Montessori schools

I don't agree with everything they do but many of brilliant minds have been produced by their education.

Also I was accused of not reading the site, and when I show the group it is they who did not read it, all of sudden it is not up to your approval, no one should ever live their life to get approval of the group but by doing the right thing!

We did read it, which is how we knew it was a quack site.
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javala, There are websites which appear to be legitimate but which, in fact, are not. One which is not is the "Vaccinationcouncil.org" you referenced. In addition, as I said, the Web Of Trust (a reputation and safety rating group), has placed a red alert on that site, as being untrustworthy and even unsafe for children.

These sites are clever in their visual design, official-sounding names, and the claims they make. It's easy to mistake them for reputable groups. Short of libel or violating serious internet laws, they can make any claims they want, whether false or not. It's important to find out more about them before believing what they publish, because truth matters. Facts matter.

This is what we're trying to explain to you, and I thought we did so in a respectful manner. I, personally, would appreciate it if you'd respond respectfully, too. Please, of course, do your research if you wish but your precious time is wasted on these charlatan, pseudo-science sites that make it up as they go along.

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Re: Measles making a comeback?

On 1/25/2015 javala said:
On 1/25/2015 javala said:
On 1/25/2015 dooBdoo said:
On 1/25/2015 AnotherView2 said:

Beware. Vaccinationcouncil.org is an anti vaccination website. So, naturally their view will be skewed.

Exactly.

javala, I'm not going to quote Post #101, but as several of us wrote in previous posts you are reading and quoting from a dreadfully unreliable, unscientific, website created to promote the anti-vaccine movement.

It doesn't serve your position well to keep using such sites as references.{#emotions_dlg.unsure}

(eta: I try to make a point of not repeating posts which contain bad info, because I think every time it's repeated it gains more unwarranted "life.")

You want it get it who is stopping you, just leave the rest of us who don't want it alone also allowing others to think for themselves by having all the information be available...

this is the trouble with group think every one is to make the group feel better by complying with their amber color view of the world...

BTW how can that site be so dreadful when they produce such minds like the owners of Google Rudolf Steiner is the founder of the Montessori schools

I don't agree with everything they do but many of brilliant minds have been produced by their education.

Also I was accused of not reading the site, and when I show the group it is they who did not read it, all of sudden it is not up to your approval, no one should ever live their life to get approval of the group but by doing the right thing!

Rudolf Steiner did not found the Montessori schools. The founder was Maria Montessori. Steiner was connected to a different school and died in 1925. Long before measles vaccination.
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Hi, Noel! Hope you have a peaceful evening, with no coughing. Stay warm, take care.Smile

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On 1/25/2015 dooBdoo said:

javala, There are websites which appear to be legitimate but which, in fact, are not. One which is not is the "Vaccinationcouncil.org" you referenced. In addition, as I said, the Web Of Trust (a reputation and safety rating group), has placed a red alert on that site, as being untrustworthy and even unsafe for children.

These sites are clever in their visual design, official-sounding names, and the claims they make. It's easy to mistake them for reputable groups. Short of libel or violating serious internet laws, they can make any claims they want, whether false or not. It's important to find out more about them before believing what they publish, because truth matters. Facts matter.

This is what we're trying to explain to you, and I thought we did so in a respectful manner. I, personally, would appreciate it if you'd respond respectfully, too. Please, of course, do your research if you wish but your precious time is wasted on these charlatan, pserudo-science sites that make it up as they go along.

Thank you but I have made my decision long ago when I was going through my Breast Cancer Chemo and radiation most likely saved me as left me like a rung out dish rag....

it was years I lived like that until I could find an A4M doctor to build up my adrenals again and now thinking and ability to do move around has greatly improved which mainstream medical it was never in their wheel house to build up the body once it went through such a process.

this was in 1996 and around 2012 I was able to get help and our insurance will never pay to restore one health only to destroy a tumor and almost the patient

silly me in those days 2003 I did for a couple of years take flu shots and ended up with flu and a few colds each year I stop doing that and I have not had the flu or a cold in years... those things play with your immune system.... but to each their own

I take no Domino medications, only various types of nutrition....

After all these years I was able to do the Bio Identical and even my dyslexic improve a lot. Must have been deficient some place.... Mother nature is a blessing, now if they just leave our foods alone everything would be wonderful!

BTW A4M are doctors who were part of the mainstream AMA who now are the best of both worlds Alterative and Medical should one need it!

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On 1/25/2015 dooBdoo said:

Hi, Noel! Hope you have a peaceful evening, with no coughing. Stay warm, take care.Smile

I hope your migraines are better, dBd Smiley Happy. Thank you, we've been catching up on PBS programs and resting.
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Re: Measles making a comeback?

STOP, STOP, STOP with all of this mumbo-jumbo talk about Vitamin A, Probiotics, whatever. STOP!!!!! Children have to be immunized. That is the hard truth. I've heard this probiotic argument from one of my daycare parents who didn't get their children immunized. Well, now here at ground zero of the measle outbreak, we'll see what happens.

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On 1/26/2015 Jackielee said:

STOP, STOP, STOP with all of this mumbo-jumbo talk about Vitamin A, Probiotics, whatever. STOP!!!!! Children have to be immunized. That is the hard truth. I've heard this probiotic argument from one of my daycare parents who didn't get their children immunized. Well, now here at ground zero of the measle outbreak, we'll see what happens.

This. We already HAD a solution to measles and people chose to ignore it. They were too ignorant to realize that they do this not only at their own peril, but at the peril of others. This isn't about vitamins and probiotics, it's about vaccines. It's also people who believe ANYTHING because we've become a nation of people who think that science and education are elitist, that anyone who can use Google is some kind of an expert, and that all opinions and ideas should be treated equally. Nope. We do not need to give equal time or credibility to scientists AND to people who think that lizard people secretly control the world.

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Now a case of measles in Michigan according to the news today... Also, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), measles has been confirmed in seven other states – California, Utah, Washington, Colorado, Oregon, Nebraska and Arizona – and also in Mexico.

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On 1/26/2015 ChynnaBlue said:
On 1/26/2015 Jackielee said:

STOP, STOP, STOP with all of this mumbo-jumbo talk about Vitamin A, Probiotics, whatever. STOP!!!!! Children have to be immunized. That is the hard truth. I've heard this probiotic argument from one of my daycare parents who didn't get their children immunized. Well, now here at ground zero of the measle outbreak, we'll see what happens.

This. We already HAD a solution to measles and people chose to ignore it. They were too ignorant to realize that they do this not only at their own peril, but at the peril of others. This isn't about vitamins and probiotics, it's about vaccines. It's also people who believe ANYTHING because we've become a nation of people who think that science and education are elitist, that anyone who can use Google is some kind of an expert, and that all opinions and ideas should be treated equally. Nope. We do not need to give equal time or credibility to scientists AND to people who think that lizard people secretly control the world.


That made me laugh {#emotions_dlg.laugh}

I agree with you both, you're right.

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