Wellness

[Q4u]

I had Measles in 1957 and I remember it very well, it was more than awful. I was very very sick for over 2 weeks. People generally don't think this is a serious illness because the vaccinations had gotten rid of it for the most part

It quite literally can take the life of the young or old or those with compromised immune systems. There were no measles vaccinations at the time. Survival of the strongest? Because without some form of vaccinations against these diseases, that's what it will come down to, many will die. Many DID die and why the vaccinations were developed in the first place. Play Russian Roulette with these diseases? Or Russian Roulette with the vaccinations?

[jessa]

On 1/24/2015 NoelSeven said:

ps As of last night, the count of measles affected children in the US is now up to 78.

(Youre welcome dBd. and Noel I always enjoy your factual informative postings. Hope everybody feels well soon.)

[NoelSeven]

On 1/24/2015 Jezzebell said:

On 1/24/2015 NoelSeven said:

ps As of last night, the count of measles affected children in the US is now up to 78.

(Youre welcome dBd. and Noel I always enjoy your factual informative postings. Hope everybody feels well soon.)

That's just one reason why you are so appreciated, also, Jezzebell

[jessa]

On 1/23/2015 AnotherView2 said:

Vitamin A deficiency is a red herring in this conversation. Very few children in the US have Vitamin A Deficiency anyway. It is found in undeveloped countries mostly in Africa and Asia.

Also, a bunch of upper crust, organic food eating Moms who won't vaccinate their kids aren't making sure their kids get enough Vitamin A so that is why they are getting measles and it's NOT because they didn't vaccinate their kids?

No. There is no logic in that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_A_deficiency

^^^^this

[jessa]

On 1/23/2015 NoelSeven said:

On 1/23/2015 Jersey Born said:

I just wish that some scientists would conduct the following experiment:

Select 100 mice, or another animal. Check the animal blood for Vitamin A, and bring the vitamin A level to certain, varied, and pre-determined levels in 50 of the animals. Do not supplement the remaining 50 animals with Vitamin A. Then, find out if the levels of Vitamin A established in the animals in any way correlated with protection from measles after actually exposing all 100 of the animals to measles. If Vitamin A could actually reduce the incidence of measles cases, in spite of exposure to measles, it would be a wonderful thing to discover. I'm not saying it would. I have no idea what the result of such an experiment would be. I would like to know what effect different blood levels of Vitamin A might or might not have on measles infection rates.

Vitamin A is used a a treatment for measles, as it is known to reduce the severity of diagnosed measles cases and reduce complications from the virus.

Interestingly, measles virus depletes the Vitamin A stored in a person's body when they are infected with the virus, too. There is a definite interplay between measles and Vitamin A that needs to be better understood.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3437709/

But apparently we do not have a vitamin A deficiency problem in America, although it is wide spread in other undeveloped parts of the world.

Your article is specific to another group: The Roma Community in Europe, commonly called "Gypsies."

Bears repeating.

[jessa]

On 1/23/2015 NoelSeven said:

On 1/23/2015 Jersey Born said:

On 1/23/2015 NoelSeven said:

On 1/23/2015 Jersey Born said:

I just wish that some scientists would conduct the following experiment:

Select 100 mice, or another animal. Check the animal blood for Vitamin A, and bring the vitamin A level to certain, varied, and pre-determined levels in 50 of the animals. Do not supplement the remaining 50 animals with Vitamin A. Then, find out if the levels of Vitamin A established in the animals in any way correlated with protection from measles after actually exposing all 100 of the animals to measles. If Vitamin A could actually reduce the incidence of measles cases, in spite of exposure to measles, it would be a wonderful thing to discover. I'm not saying it would. I have no idea what the result of such an experiment would be. I would like to know what effect different blood levels of Vitamin A might or might not have on measles infection rates.

Vitamin A is used a a treatment for measles, as it is known to reduce the severity of diagnosed measles cases and reduce complications from the virus.

Interestingly, measles virus depletes the Vitamin A stored in a person's body when they are infected with the virus, too. There is a definite interplay between measles and Vitamin A that needs to be better understood.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3437709/

But apparently we do not have a vitamin A deficiency problem in America, although it is wide spread in other undeveloped parts of the world.

Your article is specific to another group: The Roma Community in Europe, commonly called "Gypsies."

True, the article is about gypsies, but American children are eating a lot of junk food, and processed foods as their parents are working so hard to support them, that many don't take the time, or have the money, to buy healthy foods and cook healthy meals for their children. I am not aware of any commonly given blood tests that offer that Vitamin A screening in the course of a typical doctor's visit for children or adults. As far as I know, doctors don't regularly screen for Vitamin A levels, so how would we know what the levels of our children are, or what our own levels are, if we are not tested to find out?

We would be seeing an uptick in the consequences of vitamin A deficiency, such as childhood blindness, and we are not seeing that or other evidence of serious malnutrition as seen in a vitamin A deficiency.

And this too.

[Sunshine Kate]

On 1/23/2015 Jersey Born said:

I just wish that some scientists would conduct the following experiment:

Select 100 mice, or another animal. Check the animal blood for Vitamin A, and bring the vitamin A level to certain, varied, and pre-determined levels in 50 of the animals. Do not supplement the remaining 50 animals with Vitamin A. Then, find out if the levels of Vitamin A established in the animals in any way correlated with protection from measles after actually exposing all 100 of the animals to measles. If Vitamin A could actually reduce the incidence of measles cases, in spite of exposure to measles, it would be a wonderful thing to discover. I'm not saying it would. I have no idea what the result of such an experiment would be. I would like to know what effect different blood levels of Vitamin A might or might not have on measles infection rates.

Vitamin A is used a a treatment for measles, as it is known to reduce the severity of diagnosed measles cases and reduce complications from the virus.

Interestingly, measles virus depletes the Vitamin A stored in a person's body when they are infected with the virus, too. There is a definite interplay between measles and Vitamin A that needs to be better understood.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3437709/

From my reading on these forums for years, it seems most people are totally objected to animal testing.

[Ms X]

It's shocking that parents aren't vaccinating their kids, especially against something as serious as polio. With the advent of cheap air travel and such, there's more exchange than ever between the USA and developing countries where many infectious diseases that have been eradicated here still circulate. If you combine travel with unvaccinated Americans, you get the return of diseases that took many years of work to be rid of.

That said, why are people so upset about kids getting measles? Is the new strain worse than what we had in the past? After all, most kids got measles in the 1960s.

[NoelSeven]

On 1/25/2015 javala said:

On 1/23/2015 Jersey Born said:

I just wish that some scientists would conduct the following experiment:

Select 100 mice, or another animal. Check the animal blood for Vitamin A, and bring the vitamin A level to certain, varied, and pre-determined levels in 50 of the animals. Do not supplement the remaining 50 animals with Vitamin A. Then, find out if the levels of Vitamin A established in the animals in any way correlated with protection from measles after actually exposing all 100 of the animals to measles. If Vitamin A could actually reduce the incidence of measles cases, in spite of exposure to measles, it would be a wonderful thing to discover. I'm not saying it would. I have no idea what the result of such an experiment would be. I would like to know what effect different blood levels of Vitamin A might or might not have on measles infection rates.

Vitamin A is used a a treatment for measles, as it is known to reduce the severity of diagnosed measles cases and reduce complications from the virus.

Interestingly, measles virus depletes the Vitamin A stored in a person's body when they are infected with the virus, too. There is a definite interplay between measles and Vitamin A that needs to be better understood.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3437709/

Hi JB

You should be commented for the thanks less job, which so many for whatever reason feel the need to defend this very rope that some day will hang them...

Severe Measles, Vitamin A Deficiency, and the Roma Community in Europe http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/18/9/11-1701_article

Ill be darn World Health Organization

Vitamin A supplementation to improve treatment outcomes among children diagnosed with respiratory infections

Children with vitamin A deficiency seem to be at greater risk of illness and death ... with measles, large doses of vitamin A have a clear protective effect^{21, 22}.

http://www.who.int/elena/titles/bbc/vitamina_pneumonia_children/en/

I am sure these sites are taboo to them because it will not fit their scenario

Those are needed in many parts of the world. But not here. Surely you noticed that if you read the articles.

If vitamin A deficiency was a problem in the US we would be seeing childhood blindness here. We're not. It's that simple.

But if you have young children, be sure to ask your pediatrician to test them for A, if only to put your mind at ease.

[NoelSeven]

On 1/25/2015 Jezzebell said:

On 1/23/2015 AnotherView2 said:

Vitamin A deficiency is a red herring in this conversation. Very few children in the US have Vitamin A Deficiency anyway. It is found in undeveloped countries mostly in Africa and Asia.

Also, a bunch of upper crust, organic food eating Moms who won't vaccinate their kids aren't making sure their kids get enough Vitamin A so that is why they are getting measles and it's NOT because they didn't vaccinate their kids?

No. There is no logic in that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_A_deficiency

^^^^this

Yes!