Wellness

[wonderfulworld]

You know people keep talking about underlying conditions....I know two mid-seventy year old diabetics who had mild cases.

Likewise, a 39 year old, 50 year old and 60 year old that seemed very healthy. Now all three gone. 2 men and a woman. This was in the last 3 months as opposed to early on.

There seems to be no guarantee how any one person will react.

[wonderfulworld]

I would like to pose a question: We have good friends that we have not socialized with since last March. We will all have both doses of the Pfizer vaccine soon.

Are the four of us safe to meet again...with masks? without?

I know this is just asking for opinions but would like your thoughts.

[shoesnbags]

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@wonderfulworld wrote:

I would like to pose a question: We have good friends that we have not socialized with since last March. We will all have both doses of the Pfizer vaccine soon.

Are the four of us safe to meet again...with masks? without?

I know this is just asking for opinions but would like your thoughts.

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Just my opinion:  Any of the four of you could still infect the other three, who would then get a mild case because they have been vaccinated. That's based on what they are telling us at this point, that we can still catch the virus and still pass it on after we are vaccinated.  So if you don't mind getting a mild (or symptom free) case, you could skip the mask and get cozy.  Otherwise, wear a mask and distance, even after all 4 of you are vaccinated.  

[henderson]

I just got the vaccine (1st one) at Southern Nevada Health District.  They handed out an information sheet on the Pzfizer vaccine which said "The Pfixer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is an unapproved vaccine that may prevent COVID-19.  There is no FDA-approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19  It may prvent you from getting COVID-19."  I thought it was approved by the FDA.

[Carmie]

@henderson   It was approved to be used on an emergency basis.

The vaccine itself, has not gone through evey stage of testing that all other vaccines had to go through.  There are still many unknowns about the vaccine.  The FDA has not given a full approval for the COVID vaccine.  

[Nonametoday]

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@wonderfulworld wrote:

You know people keep talking about underlying conditions....I know two mid-seventy year old diabetics who had mild cases.

Likewise, a 39 year old, 50 year old and 60 year old that seemed very healthy. Now all three gone. 2 men and a woman. This was in the last 3 months as opposed to early on.

There seems to be no guarantee how any one person will react.

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@wonderfulworld   

Same thing in our community here.  One man with stage IV cancer and barely had any symptoms and his wife who was otherwise healthy on respirator and the first person in our area to come off the respirator alive.  A heathy 48-year-old man who was very fit and recently retired military officer died.  A 100-plus-year-old male lived and his 80ish wife died.  A postal worker, 33, died and many 70-ish people have hardly had any symptoms.  A 40-year-old obese diabetic married to a healthy 38-year-old who is in the hospital in serious condition and he has no symptoms.  It's a crazy virus.

[Nonametoday]

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@wonderfulworld wrote:

I would like to pose a question: We have good friends that we have not socialized with since last March. We will all have both doses of the Pfizer vaccine soon.

Are the four of us safe to meet again...with masks? without?

I know this is just asking for opinions but would like your thoughts.

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@wonderfulworld 

My understanding is that you can still have the virus and not know it and give it to others.  I don't think this works until it changes certain things in your body.  This is different from any vaccination ever on the market because the viral properties are different.  Even after the second one, you could give it to someone unknowingly because this vaccination, according to my understanding, does not prevent you from having it but makes your case light, if you have it.  But who knows, in 20 years all the people who took it may have grown chicken wings.

[noodleann]

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@henderson wrote:

I just got the vaccine (1st one) at Southern Nevada Health District.  They handed out an information sheet on the Pzfizer vaccine which said "The Pfixer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is an unapproved vaccine that may prevent COVID-19.  There is no FDA-approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19  It may prvent you from getting COVID-19."  I thought it was approved by the FDA.

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It wasn't approved. It got an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). Different standard.

I am waiting for full approval, which will probably happen early next year. I also want to see how effective the vaccines are in real-world conditions, across millions of people, many of whom will not be masking or distancing once they've had their second shots, based on things I'm reading here and elsewhere. I also want to see whether or not there are late-emerging side effects from the vaccine, especially for people like me, with deranged immune systems.

[Nonametoday]

@noodleann 

I have to take it in order for my doctor to see me and same with my husband.  They are refusing to see their patients in situ if they have not had the vaccination.  So, we can't lose our doctors.  We need our medications.

But I have immunoglobulin deficiency so I am somewhat afraid for myself but even worse, my husband is a very frail patient with many conditions and this frightens me as two people in our age group in our community with atrial fib-flutter had strokes after the first vaccination.  So, to say the least, I am not looking forward to it but must proceed.

[KaySD]

Nope, vaccines aren't perfect, and the safety of any one individual is not guaranteed. Still, it's pretty darn good odds. And if enough of us get it, and wear masks, we will block the virus from spreading freely as it does now. I am looking forward to that!