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[LTT1]

@Drythe

I have so many questions for my doctors...I'll bet they love THAT!

[Drythe]

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@LTT1 wrote:

@Drythe

I have so many questions for my doctors...I'll bet they love THAT!

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@LTT1

Sorry to hear your troubles with The Prevnar13 vaccine. I share your concerns!

I developed redness and swelling at the injection site which quickly turned into very hard, large, painful knots.  They were sectioned for testing and it  is Erythoma Nodules ( can not get this system to accept the Latin for Nodules?). Very quickly the asthma I had as a child reared it’s ugly head for no apparent reason.  The nodules are still there, they are slowly resorbing, but still there after 2 years, and I am still dealing with the asthma, which I will likely have to fight the rest of my life.

Just a note, I am not a person who rejects vaccines on general principals, and am immunosuppressed due to RA, so my reaction may have been aggravated by that.

But, no, I’m not the same.

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@on the bay wrote:

Sad for the llamas

All the more reason not to get these flu shots!

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@on the bay

Please do not jump to conclusions.  I worked in clinical research for a number of years and so can provide the following with some amount of certainty:

1.  Llama antibodies are obtained from BLOOD DRAWS.

2.  It is not necessary to "do in" a llama in order to achieve a blood draw.

3.  If only you knew where vaccines and meds you have taken or had administered to you in the past originated from, you'rd probably faint.  I'm talking a petri dish of cells from a species other than human.

[on the bay]

I don't want to get into arguments about these vaccines, however the article did say they inject the llamas with the flu, then draw blood etc.

I just wish we would find more humane ways dealing with all the wildlife and domestic animals on our earth here together.

And not to mention the horrible tract record many vaccines have had these past years.

They are huge money makers that might not have had all the benefits or protection or no side effects that they claim.

I think it is good to be very objective about our beliefs and read research and not take any cdc or fda info for granted that everything is safe and aok.

I  know we are all just trying to do what we think is best for ourselves and our families,

and hope for the best decision after we've researched all we can.

[SilleeMee]

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@on the bay wrote:

I don't want to get into arguments about these vaccines, however the article did say they inject the llamas with the flu, then draw blood etc.

I just wish we would find more humane ways dealing with all the wildlife and domestic animals on our earth here together.

And not to mention the horrible tract record many vaccines have had these past years.

They are huge money makers that might not have had all the benefits or protection or no side effects that they claim.

I think it is good to be very objective about our beliefs and read research and not take any cdc or fda info for granted that everything is safe and aok.

I  know we are all just trying to do what we think is best for ourselves and our families,

and hope for the best decision after we've researched all we can.

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The breaking news here is that it is not a vaccine at all but an universal antibody treatment (against most all strains of flu virus) made from llama blood...and that's what makes it so groundbreaking.

At some point in the future, scientists will be bioengineering these new antibodies in a way that will not require any llamas. The antibodies will be made in a test tube in some pharma lab. This type of thing is already being done for other kinds of antibodies..."monoclonal antibodies".

[LTT1]

@SilleeMee

I loved studying monoclonal antibodies.... it fascinated me and not sure why.

I kept wondering why the medical field didn't study the ANTIGEN that stimulated their production? But that is probably just a far-fetched idea since I believe these do not behave in typical antibody fashion?