@Nonametoday wrote:
@pitdakota wrote:
@Nonametoday wrote:
PAs are far more and better educated than RNs
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@Nonametoday,I actually have respect for both the role of an ARNP and PAs, but your information here about education is not correct.
PAs can & usually do have an undergraduate degree in something that is not medical related before they do the apply to the physician assistant program. So they can have a baccalaureate degree in history and apply to a PA program if they have some health care experience in their background such as working as an EMT,etc.
To be admitted to a nurse practitioner program, it is a requirement to have obtained a bachelor of science degree in nursing. So a baccalaureate nursing degree along with a nursing license is required for the NP program. A PA program does not require a special baccalaureate degree and does not require any type of licensing for admission to their program.
There are bridge programs in nursing so that someone without a BSN can "bridge" through courses & meet the requirements for a BSN before they actually start the NP courses. But it is still required that students have a BSN and an unencumbered nursing license to be admitted to any type of ARNP courses. Those students must successfully meet requirements for the BSNand successfully pass the NCLEX-RN exam to obtain a nursing license before they can start the NP program.
From there, it is basically the same in that both programs are at the graduate (master's level) to graduate & become licensed as an ARNP or a PA. Both programs are similar in length of course work and clinical experience to graduate.
Both areas also have the opportunity to advance to obtain a doctorate in the field if they choose to do so.
@pitdakota
I know nurses that have 2-year RN degrees and are entering the CRNP program. So maybe each state has different requirements.
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@Nonametoday, yes a 2 year associate degree RN can apply to a bridge program, but they have to take credits in that bridge program to meet the BSN requirement before they can start the ARNP program. That is what the word "bridge" means. It offers a bridge so to speak with degrees. So an associate degree nurse starts a bridge program and takes courses required for a BSN (that is the bridge), when successfully completed they receive credit for the BSN and then they start the NP courses.
There are 2nd degree nursing programs out there as well that allows someone with another degree other than nursing to receive credit for all their other hours and take around a 1 yr or 18 months of intensive nursing courses to graduate with a BSN. Then those individuals can enroll in a NP program.
Have no idea what a CRNP is. The official title is Advanced Registered Nurse Practitioner (ARNP). Depending on what track they finish, they have certification in that track such as Family ARNP, Critical Care, Psy/Mental-Health etc. Not familiar with a CRNP title or program at all.
I taught nursing and also taught courses in our ARNP program. A program will not receive nursing accreditiation (CCNE) if it did not bridge hours for an associate degree nurse & require an unencumbered nursing license as a conditon to starting NP courses.
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