Wellness

[Porcelain]

We are in the middle of this pandemic with rising cases and hospitalizations. Steady death count at around 1000 dead a day. No cure or vaccine and very little in the way of resources to fight it. We are on our own to protect our health, so communication on the topic is actually an important part of getting through this.

Supporting each other in staying safe could actually save someone's life. If they feel like everyone they know is acting like Covid is over (when clearly in reality it is far from over) then they may question whether or not they really need to take precautions.

[ECBG]

 @AngelPuppy1 

If you're still having issues, just say, "I'm not comfortable.  I hope you'll understand.".

If that dosen't do it, it's their problem, not yours.

[Msfitness]

@AngelPuppy1  I have been invited to family functions as well.  I tell them that I am not attending with the reason.  They seem to understand.

[AngelPuppy1]

Thanks, everyone, for your replies!  Some very good responses and I appreciate them! 

[eadu4]

     Every time someone starts a thread like this it devolves into certain groups of people usually sitting home vs those that are still going out and knowingly accepting the risk.   I read all the replies and I found some observations that are very sad.  There are definitely people who do "lecture" people on how they have to live their lives but yet don't see that they are doing exactly that.   I found those replies contained the vast majority of the name calling and insulting.  There are a lot of people that have to get out and work.  They have to be around people.   If we all stay inside how are you supposed to get your goods and supplies?  Locking down will not stop this.  We all know if you have a weakened immune system you need to be more careful

     Yes some people are far more lax with social distancing or wearing a mask.  Why obsess over them? There will always be people who do not conform, accept, or live life to other’s standards.  I am sorry but it really isn’t up to them to keep you safe.  It isn’t   It’s a nice idea, but only you are responsible for your life.  It might be sad but it’s a fact.   I understand there are places with mandatory masks and you get upset if you see people who aren’t wearing them or wearing them wrong.  It’s going to happen.  Insults won’t change that.  Everyone is different.   Please know that calling people vile names and insulting their intelligence and telling them to stay away from you at the same time asking them to do what you want them to do and help each other sends a very mixed message

     In order to work getting tested is now just a fact of life.   You will see “spikes” or “surges” in positives.  It’s because more people are getting tested.  You have no idea if that person went mask less or attended a mass gathering or those 200 new positives were people who went back to work at various jobs around the US that had to take a test to get that job.  You don’t 

     We got through this in the beginning with no precautions, no treatment protocols, nothing, without millions dying in the US.   It would seem the same people are insisting this is still running rampant through the population killing millions by the minute. And yet, it hasn’t and won’t.  Why?  Because we have treatment protocols, we have precautions and we sanitize more than we ever did before in the history of the world. 

   There are degrees of risk in this virus.  And people know that contrary to the insult hurlers assessment of their intelligence.  They state that those people don't understand the science.  But they do.  Fact is this is 99% survivable for a vast population and that is a science fact.  People need to work.  You are only doing what you feel makes you comfortable.   However you might disapprove or outright hate them those people are doing what they need to do to survive.  Not everyone's risk is the same and they are living life according to their levels of risk and fear.  You are no more right than they are. If people don't understand that you don't want to be around them due to your fear of catching the virus that's on them  Not sure why you get upset.  Let it go.  Hitting them back with they are stupid, dumb and ignorant and will most likely die is just as wrong.  Everyone just needs to get through this their own way.  There is outright disrespect and there is preception of disrespect.  There is alot of both going on.  .      . .   

[alicedee]

@eadu4 There was much I disagreed with in your post...but this was the worst...

"I am sorry but it really isn’t up to them to keep you safe.  It isn’t   It’s a nice idea, but only you are responsible for your life.  It might be sad but it’s a fact."

You are wrong...it is EVERY person's responsibility to do what they can to ensure others are safe.  Just like it is our responsibility to obey traffic laws.  Just like companies follow OSHA rules to keep workers safe.  Like companies making food products have food safety regulations to follow.

There is still much we don't know about this virus.  But we DO know that wearing a mask helps limit any potential danger from us if we have COVID (and we may or may not be asymptomatic) to those we come in contact with.  Not totally, but SOME protection to others.

Those who refuse to do that are ignorant and selfish.

[twentysixteen]

The most informed posts on the virus I've seen

were posted by @pitdakota .

Hers are polite and respectful as well. 👍

[eadu4]

@alicedee and low and behold here come the insults.   Thanks for calling me ignorant and selfish.  Fact is I take precautions.  I wear a mask, wash, sanitize but sad you feel insults help your point. The point you miss is that the fact that they are looking out for their families first also means that they are  presenting less of a risk to you.  By being cautious for their family means less of a risk for you.  But they are going to look out for their family first not everyone else.   I do understand the sentiment that we all need to do the "right thing"  but what some people call the "right thing" may not fit some other peoples definition or even their life.  You can not like that but it doesn't change that.    Eveyone's life and needs are different.  The risk of  this is far less for a vast majority. 

       Most people do mask, do wash, do sanitize.  People cannot micro manage others lives by either telling people they need to get out or conversely  telling them that being out is going to kill them and everyone else.   What you consider important, might not rank up there as number 1 for them.   If their risk is very low, their first priority is money for the bills and feeding their families.  They can't sit there and ponder if what they do today will be alright for you.. .They will do what their family needs are first.  Seriously it won't "defeat" the virus if everyone wears a mask.  Why? because not all masks are created equal.  They don't all fit correctly.  There is no mask sanitation standard, and not everyone has the money for a bunch of masks or sanitizer.  There is no cookie cutter fit for this.  

      During flu season do you look out for yourself first?  Sure you do.  Do you sanitize, and wash your hands to watch out for yourself?  Yes you do.  You HOPE people will be cautious and do what is considered sanitary but they can't look out for you, they need to look out for themselves and their families.first.  I just wish people would let people live their lives.  We hope people will do the sanitary thing.  But not everyone will.   A vast majority understands "the science states" but the science also states the risk is not the same for everyone.   If people respect that you want to handle this virus your way then why get upset when others do the same? 

[alicedee]

@eadu4  Read my post.  I did not say YOU were ignorant and selfish.  I said those who refuse to wear a mask and social distance in public are.

None of us can live in a bubble.  We all have to buy food, go to appointments and care for family.  Many have to work.   SO...wear a mask and give some space when doing those things.

It's not that hard.

[happycat]

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@twentysixteen wrote:

The most informed posts on the virus I've seen

were posted by @pitdakota .

Hers are polite and respectful as well. 👍

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I agree. I think @pitdakota has some sort of medical background. She knows what she is talking about, I take her serious when she gives us her opinion about this mess.