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[gertrudecloset]

@Drythe 

Is Prehypertension a Result of Aging?

You may wonder if high blood pressure happens with aging, but experts say no.

Some populations across the globe have minimal rise in blood pressure with aging. In some parts of Mexico, the South Pacific, and other parts of the world, people have very low salt intake. In these areas, the age-related rise in blood pressure is small compared with the U.S.

READ IT AND DEAL WITH IT.  Guess who I'm listening to?

[gertrudecloset]

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@Shelbelle wrote:

I think BP has a lot to do with age. All my friends and family have seen increases since turning 60. All of their docs are pleased with readings in the 130's. My BFF just had an appt with her doc and she was 142, on 1 med,  her doc said, see you in 6 months!!! My hubby is in excellent physical condition at 71, has never taken any BP meds, always has a top number of over 130.  I take my med daily, and I have learned to stop wrestling with  it, that will just make it go up !!! Another friend told me her doc said not to take your BP daily at home, just a few times a week. 

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You think?  How about ask your doc because there a millions of older Americans and others from other countries who don't have a rise in blood pressure due to their age @Shelbelle .  In America I can see it.  We don't eat the way other cultures do, which would portend that we might run the risk of higher readings as we get older.  Medically speaking your age has nothing to do with your blood pressure if you are in good health to begin with.  LIFESTYLE.

[gertrudecloset]

@Drythe 

The new guidelines have other changes, too. First, they don't offer different recommendations for people younger or older than age 65. "This is because the SPRINT study looked at all patients regardless of age and didn't break down groups above or below a certain age," says Dr. Conlin. 

This is how the new guidelines were put into place in 2017!

This study I believe.  Not your ranting......

[gertrudecloset]

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@smoochy wrote:

You can't just say there is one particular cause of hypertension like lifestyle. That's just not accurate. Many factors influence blood pressure. A main one is heredity. Hypertension is familial. My father had it. He took medication for it. He was slender, physically fit, didn't smoke or drink. He dropped dead, literally, at age 55. My sister and I inherited that hypertension. She also dropped dead of cardiac arrest at 57. She also took bp meds, bit was morbidly obese. I am treated with medication. My Bp stays within normal range. I'm not obese, don't smoke, and I drink one or two alcoholic beverages a week, if that. I'm 70. 
It's amazing how many "experts" are in this discussion, giving questionable advice. Or believing that their own anecdotal experiences are evidence of accuracy. Fwiw, I'm an RN. 

@smoochy 

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In about 95 percent of cases, the cause of hypertension is unknown. These cases are classified as essential hypertension. When hypertension results from an underlying condition, such as blood vessel defects that reduce blood flow; kidney disorders, which alter the amount of fluids and salts in the body; or problems with hormone-producing glands called the adrenal glands or the thyroid gland, it is classified as secondary hypertension. Hypertension is a key feature of some rare genetic disorders, including familial hyperaldosteronism, pseudohypoaldosteronism type 2, Liddle syndrome, and tumors known as paragangliomas.

Let's also keep in mind age has nothing to with anything in these circumstances either.  It is overall health and DNA.

Hypertension tends to run in families. Individuals whose parents have hypertension have an elevated risk of developing the condition, particularly if both parents are affected. However, the inheritance pattern is unknown.

Rare, genetic forms of hypertension follow the inheritance pattern of the individual condition.  

Elevated Risk is not guaranteed acquirement of the disease.

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/hypertension/#inheritance

[gertrudecloset]

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@smoochy wrote:

@gertrudecloset  Of course lifestyle choices play a part. I however need my medication or I will have a stroke or a cardiac arrest. Thank God for medications. Also very glad to be retired from an unbelievably stressful career 

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@smoochy So do I.  I take a cocktail and will continue with my mainstream Medical Science for my care.  Not other antidotes that I don't know where they are made or have no FDA oversight.  I believe in the Science of Medicine to the degree that it is accurate as it can be.  It's not perfect ~ but I choose it.

We all should do what we think is best for us.  I would never take something without the permission of my internist or cardiologist for such a serious issue.

[qbetzforreal]

@Luvsmyfam- you mention in another thread that you were taking Meloxicam.  It can raise your blood pressure.

[Luvsmyfam]

I'm glad you mentioned this.i actually stopped using this medication,because I read that as well.what I don't understand,why did the Dr prescribe this to me knowing I have high bp?BP? To say,im taking Tylenol for hip pain and so far I'm not having issues.i have been taking readings from new BP kit.still high in the early am,but much better towards noon time.i go again Friday for another reading at Dr s office.wish me luck

[Drythe]

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@gertrudecloset wrote:

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@Drythe Don't you ever tell me what to state.  Seeing one's physician is the best way to get the medical help one may need.  I quoted a study that said they found no indication in the subjects they studied through a number of ages that age did NOT affect blood pressure.  I'm not a clinician and neither are you, unless you qualify yourself as such.  I quoted a study.  I believe it has been peer reviewed (2017) and can be located in Medical Journals.  That's good enough for me.

Why should it, after all?  If you lead a good lifestyle even when you're old an gray you don't necessarily have to develop HBP.  LIFESTYLE.  WHEN YOUR YOUNG TYPICALLY CARRIES OVER TO YOUR OLDER YEARS.  Unless later in life you give up on your care.

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@gertrudecloset 

Let's break this down 'K?  

1 - the sentence I highlighted above, contains a double negative - 'they found NO indication ... that age did NOT affect blood pressure."  

Unless the authors of your Medical Studies have started using awful grammar in their studies - that double negative means that they could NOT prove that age did NOT affect blood pressure.

2- As for the information you provided regarding the study of Pastoral societies, 

"Some populations across the globe have minimal rise in blood pressure with aging. In some parts of Mexico, the South Pacific, and other parts of the world, people have very low salt intake. In these areas, the age-related rise in blood pressure is small compared with the U.S."

The paragraph above which you have shared several times says clearly -

    "In these areas (Mexico, South Pacific,etc,) the age related rise in blood pressure is small compared with the US."

So, even in these areas they DO have age related rise in blood pressure.

How do I know?  Because your study says so, it says their rate of age related blood pressure is small (see small - but NOT non existent).  Compared with the US.  (See the US has age related increase in blood pressure because your study says so.)

Yes, these pastoral countries have some age related rise in blood pressure, but it is SMALL compared to the amount of age related blood pressure found in the US.

If that were not true, how could they compare the two, and conclude that the US has more?

I'm not a clinician and neither are you, unless you qualify yourself as such.  I quoted a study.  I believe it has been peer reviewed (2017) and can be located in Medical Journals.  That's good enough for me.

3 - Thank you for the information, I had not thought you were a clinician.

Because of my education, training, and experience, yes, I do.

I have no investment in what you say. However, everyone should have caution making statements about the treatments & medication of those of whom they have no personal information, or of providing snippets of studies as full data.  Do no harm.