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[Vickiv]

Totally agree. With everyone here. I hope the mods are reading this thread. Good thoughts .

[bebe777]

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@Moonchilde wrote:
I have observed a trend that will surely increase - it has certainly increased in the last 48 hrs. A poster will start a thread that is completely within QVC guidelines, intended to be so. Most posters keep it within those guidelines.

Then posters come along who, either because they disagree with others, are literally incapable of posting without being offensive or controversial, or *choose* to be offensive or controversial - ruin the thread for the OP and everyone else who was enjoying it.

Due to the guidelines the moderators have to follow, anyone who wants to, or several 'anyones' can purposely get a thread deleted by these tactics. The OP and the original participants did nothing wrong and yet their threads are able to be trashed deliberately simply by the injecting of posts the posters are making for that express purpose. That does not seem right - that those who follow the rules are able to be victimized and controlled (and in a way controlling the moderators too) by those who flaunt the rules.

I would rather see, on the whole, POSTS and/or POSTERS deleted than a thread deleted. If a thread has 50 posts and 30 of them should be deleted, then delete them - without deleting the thread.

If many threads are deleted or closed to posting (a better option) then the inappropriate posters still control the forums - something the Social Team has been working hard to prevent.

However it's done behind the scenes, I wish the moderators would discuss/come up with internal rules regarding how many very deliberately inappropriate posts a poster is allowed before they are warned, and how many after that before they are banned for knowingly continually posting inappropriately. I don't need or want details, but I really hope it's something the Social Team and the Moderators are thinking about - otherwise all of those who play by the rules, as well as the Moderators themselves, will still be manipulated by the deliberate rule-breakers.

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moonchilde, that's a great observation and suggestion. Thank you for taking the time to post this!!! 

-- bebe

[Moonchilde]

Thank you, bebe 😀

My posts in favor of moderation and the moderators have, however, put a target on my back for some on these forums. Not that it surprises me.

[bebe777]

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@Moonchilde wrote:
Thank you, bebe 😀

My posts in favor of moderation and the moderators have, however, put a target on my back for some on these forums. Not that it surprises me.

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moonchilde, I'm so sorry to hear that because while I don't post here on a regular basis I appreciate your thoughtful, balanced approach to issues. 

btw, I hearted your post above and I didn't want it to be misconstrued. I was hearting it out of solidarity. 

-- bebe

[Moonchilde]

I understood, bebe, and thanks again :-)

[Cakers3]

FWIW and WADR:  We are all adults here and I trust the mods to do the right thing.

What one perceives as an attempt to take down a thread can be perceived by another as simply a pov.  Nobody is adept at posting clearly and concisely; nor should any poster be expected to post based on assumptions that do nothing more than cause more friction.

This type of constant battling to remove one post or poster is the problem, not what is being said.  In most cases I see posters just trying to participate; not everyone is welcome on every thread and that's a fact.

Let the mods do their thing; I'm sure they are quite capable at determining what should stay and what should be removed.   I'm not here to tell them how to do their job; I'm here just to read, participate when I choose, and overall really I'm just not going to get all invested in trying to reinvent the wheel.

jmoymmv

[Yankee2000]

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@Cakers3 wrote:

FWIW and WADR:  We are all adults here and I trust the mods to do the right thing.

What one perceives as an attempt to take down a thread can be perceived by another as simply a pov.  Nobody is adept at posting clearly and concisely; nor should any poster be expected to post based on assumptions that do nothing more than cause more friction.

This type of constant battling to remove one post or poster is the problem, not what is being said.  In most cases I see posters just trying to participate; not everyone is welcome on every thread and that's a fact.

Let the mods do their thing; I'm sure they are quite capable at determining what should stay and what should be removed.   I'm not here to tell them how to do their job; I'm here just to read, participate when I choose, and overall really I'm just not going to get all invested in trying to reinvent the wheel.

jmoymmv

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I agree Cakers, the mods know how to do their job and are fully capable of doing so without the involvement of us (collective us) posters. 

[Cakers3]

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@Yankee2000 wrote:

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@Cakers3 wrote:

FWIW and WADR:  We are all adults here and I trust the mods to do the right thing.

What one perceives as an attempt to take down a thread can be perceived by another as simply a pov.  Nobody is adept at posting clearly and concisely; nor should any poster be expected to post based on assumptions that do nothing more than cause more friction.

This type of constant battling to remove one post or poster is the problem, not what is being said.  In most cases I see posters just trying to participate; not everyone is welcome on every thread and that's a fact.

Let the mods do their thing; I'm sure they are quite capable at determining what should stay and what should be removed.   I'm not here to tell them how to do their job; I'm here just to read, participate when I choose, and overall really I'm just not going to get all invested in trying to reinvent the wheel.

jmoymmv

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I agree Cakers, the mods know how to do their job and are fully capable of doing so without the involvement of us (collective us) posters. 

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 It's all in a poster's perception and that isn't always based on rational thought.

ymoymmv

[SydneyH]

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@Cakers3 wrote:

FWIW and WADR:  We are all adults here and I trust the mods to do the right thing.

What one perceives as an attempt to take down a thread can be perceived by another as simply a pov.  Nobody is adept at posting clearly and concisely; nor should any poster be expected to post based on assumptions that do nothing more than cause more friction.

This type of constant battling to remove one post or poster is the problem, not what is being said.  In most cases I see posters just trying to participate; not everyone is welcome on every thread and that's a fact.

Let the mods do their thing; I'm sure they are quite capable at determining what should stay and what should be removed.   I'm not here to tell them how to do their job; I'm here just to read, participate when I choose, and overall really I'm just not going to get all invested in trying to reinvent the wheel.

jmoymmv

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Preach, Cakers!  We KNOW some posters are not welcome as they are treated terribly.  It's always the same tormentors, has been for years.  I guess they think not speaking up equals acceptance.

[puglet1]

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@Cakers3 wrote:

FWIW and WADR:  We are all adults here and I trust the mods to do the right thing.

What one perceives as an attempt to take down a thread can be perceived by another as simply a pov.  Nobody is adept at posting clearly and concisely; nor should any poster be expected to post based on assumptions that do nothing more than cause more friction.

This type of constant battling to remove one post or poster is the problem, not what is being said.  In most cases I see posters just trying to participate; not everyone is welcome on every thread and that's a fact.

Let the mods do their thing; I'm sure they are quite capable at determining what should stay and what should be removed.   I'm not here to tell them how to do their job; I'm here just to read, participate when I choose, and overall really I'm just not going to get all invested in trying to reinvent the wheel.

jmoymmv

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Excellent post Cakers.

IMO it is quite arrogant and inappropriate to suggest to the moderators how to do their jobs, and to patronize them by saying they may find themselves "manipulated by rule breakers", and they would "feel they did a good day's (or night's) work" by coming down on these "unruly and defiant deliberate rule breakers."   I don't understand why some posters are so invested, and feel the need to so closely monitor and direct things around here.  QVC staff are here to do that.