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Re: NFL News and Notes for March 2017!!!

Okay. I didn't see that coming. Rumor has it that a three way trade is potentially brewing where Kirk Cousin's goes to the Niners, The Niners second overall pick goes to the Redskins who then send that pick to the Cowboys for Romo. If the Browns do draft Trubisky first overall, then the Cowboys have Myles Garrett fall into their lap.

 

This helps to explain the Mitch Trubisky rumor. I'm guessing people in the Niners and Redskins camps are leaking that to let the Cowboys think they can get Garrett by giving up Romo and they'll give up Romo anyway, so it's a no-brainer for the Cowboys. (Aside from that minor little part about trading a hall of fame quarterback to a fierce rival.)

 

Parts of this make sense. Parts of this make no sense. Let's start with what makes sense. First the Niners get the QB they need for  the second overall pick. The Redskns get a competent, likely better, though older and more fragile replacement. The Cowboys get a chance to get Myles Garrett who they covet. All three teams win! Yea!

 

On to the parts that make no sense. Is Kirk Cousins worth the second overall pick in the draft, knowing you'll have to sign him to a very expensive long term deal immediately after getting him? I don't think so. As much as you can debate if Cousins is worth that second overall pick, I'd be stunned if anyone thought Romo was worth the second overall pick in the draft given his age, injury history and current contract. He would be a very short term, high priced, very fragile, rent-a-quarterback. I don't see any way that anyone in their right mind would give up the second overall pick for a guy the Cowboys will have to cut in a few more weeks..It's just hard to see that happening.

 

I guess I could see the Redskins trading Cousin's for that second overall pick, but I don't then see the Redskins trading that pick to get Romo. (Bear in mind the Redskins recently got burned trading for a rival's older veteran quarterback in Donovan McNabb who was younger and healthier than Romo and traded for much less value than the second overall pick in the draft.)

 

I don't doubt that the Cowboys would jump with joy at this potential trade. You give up a guy you've got to cut anyway and get the second overall pick? Sure! We'll be glad to! Where do we sign? Even if Myles Garret goes to the Browns the Cowboys could get a top level player for a guy they'd cut anyway. It's a no-brainer for them.

 

Would the Redskins trade Cousins for that second overall pick in the draft? I would in a heartbeat if I were them. Negotiations on a long term deal have not gone especially well. Cousins is playing you like a fish on a line, and there's literally nothing you can do about it. He'll likely be gone next year and you're not likely to get anything better than the second overall pick in the draft next year, so bye bye Kirk, hello second overall pick.

 

Then we hit the roadblocks. FIrst, does San Francisco use the second overall pick on Cousins? I wouldn't. It's not like all they need is a quarterback. They need pretty much everything and they can likely pick up Cousins for free (other than his salary) next year at this time. I might trade that second overall pick for more picks (lots more picks) to help rebuild the team faster, but I wouldn't trade it for Cousins.

 

The second roadblock is, even if SF does make the trade does Washington trade that second overall pick to Dallas for Tony Romo? Yeah, I don't think so. If you were getting the Tony Romo of say seven years ago, maybe. Now you're getting the guy who's been breaking almost every time he hits the turf. I'm sure the Cowboys would throw in Alfred Morris (who they want to move) but unless they throw in a few of their all pro offensive linemen and maybe Ezekiel Elliott I don't see this deal getting done.

 

I just don't see a team giving up a lot to get Kirk Cousins from the Redskins. Every team knows that Cousins is gone next year no matter what. The Redskins can't pay him $34 million. All they'd get in compensation if they lose him in free agency is a third round pick. Why offer them much more than that to get him now? Maybe I'd go as high as a second round pick, but the second pick overall in the draft on a largely talentless team? No.

 

Now the Niners have a naive young GM in John Lynch and a new head coach in Kyle Shanahan, but between them they should have the intelligence ot know how foolish this move is. And unless McCloughan and the Redskins' braintrust is completely brain dead, there's no way you trade that second overall pick to pick up Romo. Could he possibly take you to a playoff berth? Yeah, if, and this is a huge if, you could keep him healthy. His payoff record isn't exactly sterling either. McNabb took the Eagles to the Super Bowl amd multiple playoff wins. Romo, not so much. They got burned on McNabb. Do they make an even bigger mistake this time?

 

It's an interesting story and gives everyone lots to talk about, but the odds of this happening are insanely slim if the deal is as currently laid out. The values just don't add up. Cousins with his contract situation is maybe worth a second round pick. Romo has very, very little value. (He's going to get cut in a few days/weeks, so why trade anything for him now when you can get him for free then?) That second overall pick is very, very valuable. The combined value of Romo and Cousins might move you up a spot or two in the second round of the draft, but it's not nearly worth the second overall pick in the draft. Lots, and I mean lots, of other players/picks would have to be involved for this to make any real world sense.

 

Maybe, just maybe there's a chance this deal could work if the Cowboys were trading Dak Prescott to the Redskins instead of Romo. The values start to work out a bit more. The Redskins get the cheap/durable quarterback who's a proven winner. The Cowboys have Romo as their starter again who JJ insists they built the team for. The Niners get their guy in Cousins. The Cowboys likely think they can catch lightning in the bottle again since Prescott wasn't their first, second, or even third choice for a QB last year. He just was who was left when they finally got a chance to pick someone. Chances are they have comparable grades on a third or fourth round guy this year. There's more of a likelihood of that type of trade working for everyone than a trade involving Romo. We'll see what happens.

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The 'Skins are totally losing me on this one.  Romo?  REALLY?

 

Brunell, McNabb, Romo - sounds like the revolving door of coaches that've been around too.

 

Cousins is going to go on and be memorable.  The Redskins are foolish.  This from a team that signed Albert Haynesworth?

 

The Doxson boy . . .  not sure what's going on there but wow, banking on that is risky.  And wow, we could possibly get Morris back?

 

 

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Oh and what?  RGIII wasn't the Browns' saviour, either?

 

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@Sweetbay magnolia wrote:

The 'Skins are totally losing me on this one.  Romo?  REALLY?

 

Brunell, McNabb, Romo - sounds like the revolving door of coaches that've been around too.

 

Cousins is going to go on and be memorable.  The Redskins are foolish.  This from a team that signed Albert Haynesworth?

 

The Doxson boy . . .  not sure what's going on there but wow, banking on that is risky.  And wow, we could possibly get Morris back?

 

 


It surprised the heck out of me when I read it this morning. That's the hot rumor, but I just can't see it happening for Romo. Now if the Cowboys were offering Dak Prescott, maybe, but I'm not even sold on Prescott as having a second overall pick value. If anyone's dumb enough to offer the second overall pick for Romo, it would take me a millisecond to agree to that if I was the Cowboys.

 

I've had a hunch that JJ really wants Romo as his QB this year based on stuff he's been saying. He's convinced Romo has four or five years left in him. He built the team around Romo. They'd planned to ease in a kid, then Romo got hurt.

 

Dak Prescott was not their original choice for their quarterback of the future. They thought they could grab Wetnz, then the Eagles traded ahead of them to get Wentz. They then targeted Paxton Lynch, only to have the Broncos get him. Then Hackenberg who went to the Jets, and Connor Cook who went to the Raiders. At that point they pretty much just defaulted into Prescott. If you can believe the reports, he was their eight ranked QB among the kids coming out last year. They likely have a few kids rated the same or higher this year that the Cowboys (well Jerry Jones anyway) thinks they could plug in and replicate Dak Prescott if need be.

 

If the Cowboys think they can get that second overall pick for Dak Prescott, and they still love/trust Tony Romo, and the Redskins value Dak Prescott highly enough, we could see things play out, but I don't see any way that anyone trades that second overall pick for Romo.

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It's FAKE NEWS started by Ian Rapport NFL Network......  The Redskins have enough drama we don't need no STINKIN FAKE NEWS!!!!!-----SHEESH!

 

Absent---- an actual trade rumor to shake up the Scouting Combine, Ian Rapoport of NFL Media essentially made up a potential three-team blockbusterWoman TongueWoman Frustrated

 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/03/talk-of-three-way-romo-cousins-trade-is-conjecture-a...

 

 

It wouldn't even work!---

 

http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/there-are-many-reasons-why-redskins-cousins-romo-d...

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Good grief (Downtown Charlie Brown).  Say it ain't so!

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Oh and what?  RGIII wasn't the Browns' saviour, either?

 


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LOL  ----Good one! Woman LOL

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Prescott has some proving to do, anyway.  I saw vulnerabilities towards the end of the season.  You can run, but you can't hide.  Strategies always get found out.

 

My husband told me about the (potentially unlikely) Romo deal last night.  I was aghast.

 

I think I like baseball better anyway.  A bunch of games everyday, beautiful weather in gorgeous ball parks . . . the livin' is easy for the spectator.

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Bobby 3G I used to call him, @Spurt.  Or "Mock" 3.

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Bobby 3G I used to call him, @Spurt.  Or "Mock" 3.


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At least he gave me and a lot of Browns' fans a good laugh, after his performance in Cleveland Mock 3 said "he proved a lot of people wrong" (he thought his outings showed a lot of people he could still play----PUHLEEEEAAASSE)!

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