Q Talk

[Lakelife62]

A-to-the-men!

And POST OF THE DAY.

My opinion only- disdain for those poorer and sicker than you. for some, it's the only time they can feel superior.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, @KKJ. You have made my day and restored some faith in humanity.

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@KKJ wrote:

I have to say I get really disgusted by how judgmental people get toward others, and not just in this case but local ones as well. An example of this is years ago the place I worked pooled money to help a single mother who was already struggling with a very sick son. Well, when someone went to her house they saw that she had bought a very expensive item (it was Christmas time) for her sick son. I couldn't believe the criticism & anger toward this poor woman, with many saying, "she shoulda paid the rent, bills, etc. with the money."  I was just sick by how mean these women were. The lady chose to use the money to get something that would make her very sick son happy at that time. Why must people give with strings attached & be so judgmental? Same with AN situation--she shoulda got a smaller house, she shoulda done this or that, yada yada. Who's to say what others should do, and if you don't want to donate then DON'T.

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[KKJ]

ETA--this lady's son passed away not long after. He had a rare aggressive cancer and this lady is the sweetest most loving person. I can't imagine the stress dealing with such a tragic situation alone--having a sick child and not being able to pay your bills to boot.

[Puppy Lips]

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@Lakelife62 wrote:

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@Puppy Lips wrote:

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@Lakelife62 wrote:

 Nasty. Coveting an ill person's chemo money is beyond sickening, but totally tracks with the usual suspects. 

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@Lakelife62 No one is coveting her money.  But I am not going to be foolish enough to contribute.  There has been ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY on how those funds are spent.  You are free to continue to add to her bank account.  Have at it.  When and if you ever are short of funds, reach out to Antonella.  I am sure she will be glad to return the favor, LOL.

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I am going to reply to you this one last time.

There have been over 3,000 donations to Antonella's GFM. Antonella hasn't disappeared. She can be found. She is hawking jewelry from the back of her boat. If she had scammed anybody out of a contribution, we would know about it. Is it logical to you that Lisa Robertson would continue to associate with Antonella, have her visit her home, invite her to Christmas Market in Europe if Antonella lied about her illnesses and used the $159,000 raised to live the high life? 

It's not logical. Logical people understand what happened. Logical people don't have a knee jerk reaction to somebody's cancer money because they are po'd that the person didn't suffer and fall off the face of the earth after losing everything.

The bs, made up, stuff posted about hosts, former hosts, young pretty women, is getting worse and worse. And it's always directed at women. Always.

I've said my piece. The sun is out and that's where I'm headed.

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@Lakelife62 The only thing that bothers me is that the go fund me is still open.  They should be back on solid financial ground by this point.  And if they are NOT, then the husband and son need to get jobs instead of taking money from people who kindly donate from their own hard earned money.

[shoekitty]

@KKJ   I totally get that. I worked for and ran a local food bank for years. I was usually the only one working, I went up to SH food bank, loaded 900 lbs of food every week, then went back stocked pantries, and delivered bags of food.  Many came to me.  I served many who were in between as well as indigent .  In between were those that worked low paying jobs ...and it was always pay rent or pay pge, or buy food. I came in. Sometimes I went under bridge to serve homeless. Many times I encountered women, living alone with children in a small apt with little food or none.   Some had food stamps, but never went far.  One lady I had a child with a disability, among her other kids. She told me when she bought her child a small Bakery made cake for her child's birthday.. how a comment was made to her about that cake when she paid with food stamps. This was at check stand.  This is before EBT days.  You had a coupon book. She had always made a cake, or small cake.  But the kid wished for an Ariel cake.    I mean how cruel. People didn't know, the child wasn't getting presents, or a day at Disney. All she wanted was a cake with Ariel on it...still today I think about them. The joy that kid got from that cake , and she kept the figurine. It meant so much. I gave them some food for the week, because she had used some stamps for cake. I can't share the rest of story, but it did turn out good for that lady and her family as the years went by. She still drops by ever once in a while to just say hi when she is in town.

another story is a local Club used to take kids from a farm workers camp at Christmas  to get coats at KMart. One of the women that took them complained to me some of the kids were a little dirty, why didn't the parents clean them up. I told her, they don't have washers there for free it costs to wash.  So many moms wash clothes by hand and hang up in the yards.  But often they don't have much soap. This costs money. Also, the showers are public, and not always working or available.  These families didn't have it easy. But they came and worked.  Sometimes we need to think of the small things we have every day, that others don't 

[on the bay]

@shoekitty

The cake with the Ariel is heartbreaking.

Sometimes something so small can be so precious for someone with nothing.

I can totally understand.

One year, long ago I didn't have money to get my 1st daughter a birthday present. I found a sparkly rock on the ground which I thought was beautiful and when I gave it to her you would have thought I gave her diamonds. She said "Oh! Thanks Mom!!"

We never really knew we were poor until one day my mother said, You realize you are below the poverty level. No we did not. But we were very lucky with a wonderful neighborhood, family and friends that helped with food and clothes while my husband worked 7 days a week and I worked part time and you really appreciate so many things that later are taken for granted when you do have money. I don't remember if there was anything like food stamps back then or medicaid but there was a wonderful thing called Wick, I think started by President Reagan that helped you get formula and food for the baby. Even when I was young, it was the same. I loved every single 3 toys ( my stuffed dogs), I had and the outside was our playground.

In many ways, I am so grateful for all those days. The simplicity and joy of very small and simple things. And you learn how to live with very little. Though I do think somehow it was easier back then to live with much less.

And I realize very much how many people have it so much worse than we ever did with no family or anyone to help.

As for Antonella, I just don't know but I don't think I would continue to donate to someone who seems to be living a good life from what she has posted, on a boat sailing the islands which maybe is financed by her continuing go fund me. She hasn't said if her husband or son work or just support the boat running and her jewelry business and from what I've read here has never explained if she has insurance coverage and to what extent.

 As for the hardship of a small space as some have mentioned, she has said she would never want to live on land again, so she must love it enough to continue.

[baglady9]

Let it go, let it go, let them go

[on the bay]

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@baglady9 wrote:

Let it go, let it go, let them go

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@baglady9,

I ge it. I only read about them on here but I think as long as they both post numerous updates about their lives everyday and every detail, there will be comments about it and maybe that is what they want. They are the ones not letting it go and they do not want to.

[KKJ]

@shoekitty The Ariel cake story brought tears to my eyes!  So glad to hear the family is doing much better over the years and you've kept in touch with them.  Bless you sweet lady for all you do to help others!

[Stray]

I do pay more for insurance now than what I did when I worked. The only difference & a big one is the co pay amount. My deductible was high during my employment & I had to pay 10% in network or 20% out of network. Now I pay a much higher premium for supplemental insurance but I have no co pay amount & my deductible is paid by my insurer.

[spabar]

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@Puppy Lips wrote:

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@Lakelife62 wrote:

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@Puppy Lips wrote:

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@Lakelife62 wrote:

 Nasty. Coveting an ill person's chemo money is beyond sickening, but totally tracks with the usual suspects. 

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@Lakelife62 No one is coveting her money.  But I am not going to be foolish enough to contribute.  There has been ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY on how those funds are spent.  You are free to continue to add to her bank account.  Have at it.  When and if you ever are short of funds, reach out to Antonella.  I am sure she will be glad to return the favor, LOL.

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I am going to reply to you this one last time.

There have been over 3,000 donations to Antonella's GFM. Antonella hasn't disappeared. She can be found. She is hawking jewelry from the back of her boat. If she had scammed anybody out of a contribution, we would know about it. Is it logical to you that Lisa Robertson would continue to associate with Antonella, have her visit her home, invite her to Christmas Market in Europe if Antonella lied about her illnesses and used the $159,000 raised to live the high life? 

It's not logical. Logical people understand what happened. Logical people don't have a knee jerk reaction to somebody's cancer money because they are po'd that the person didn't suffer and fall off the face of the earth after losing everything.

The bs, made up, stuff posted about hosts, former hosts, young pretty women, is getting worse and worse. And it's always directed at women. Always.

I've said my piece. The sun is out and that's where I'm headed.

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@Lakelife62 The only thing that bothers me is that the go fund me is still open.  They should be back on solid financial ground by this point.  And if they are NOT, then the husband and son need to get jobs instead of taking money from people who kindly donate from their own hard earned money.

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@Puppy Lips  She is hawking a book her son wrote, and someone questioned her about the Go Fund Me still being open. She replied that she keeps it open so she could read the nice comments. 🤔 She was then told she'd still be able to see the comments.