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Yeah, my dogs always had cues, each one was a little different from the other,however this dog does not give them.

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I can understand what you are going through.  After many years of owning herding or working breeds, I got a greyhound from the dog track.  I had to throw out all my previous knowledge/experience in training in order to live with/train this smart, sensitive hound. 

 

Sounds like folks have given lots of good advice. 

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@goldensrbest wrote:

Yeah, my dogs always had cues, each one was a little different from the other,however this dog does not give them.


 

@goldensrbest,  sorry to say I have to strongly disagree with your no cues statement.  Unless your dog stands in front of you and does his business at will there are cues you just have not recognized them.

 

Does he return to the same areas?  If so are you watching for when he approaches a favorite area? Does he sneak off to a favorite area and you miss it?  Does he stare at you then disappear when you ignore him or just give him a pat?

 

I have to believe he isn't blatantly doing his business while you watch which to me means you and the dog are not communicating.

 

You also mentioned in your OP that you take him out and give him time to do his business.  Is the timeline yours or his?  Do you keep him out until he goes or do you give up waiting and go back inside before he does anything/everything?

 

Maybe the best solution is to treat him as you would a toddler, keeping a very watchful eye on him anytime he is not at your side.  With close observation within a short period of time his cues will be revealed.

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When I would get a new dog, especially a young one, and I didn't know his signals, I would take him out more often than I thought necessary.  The rule of thumb with puppies was always every two hours, but I would take my new dogs out every hour or even more often if they had been playing.  After a nap as soon as they started to stir, I would take them out.  Carrying a small dog if necessary or if a larger dog, on a leash so they couldn't get sidetracked between their bed and the door.  I would take them straight to the"their spot" and stay with them until they went.  Then praise highly and take inside immediately.  Eventually they got the idea if they went, they got back in the house.

 

I would keep a vigilant eye on my dog and write down every time he needs to go out and/or goes inside.  It shouldn't take long to find out he probably has a pattern depending on his activity or nap schedule.

 

After having a dog for many years and knowing their patterns, it's hard to start from scratch again with a new dog.  It always was a lot more work (for a while) than I had remembered!

 

Good luck.  You've gotten a lot of good suggestions.  You might be able to use a combination and find out what works for your dog.

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Take treats out with you and say good boy or good girl and give a treat.  Do not use that treat while in the house, only outside.  I used to tell my girls "pee pee" and then give a special treat after they peed.  I would also walk mine  where other dogs walk until they pooed I would also use the word poo poo and then treat, good girls for mine.  I am sorry you are having so much trouble.  Keep at it and it will work.  Good luck.

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I don't claim to know much about dogs and their behaviours, as I am more of a cat person and have had many. My first thought was maybe there is another issue causing this.

 

I say that because I had a female cat that I had had since her birth, she was about 10 at the time when we brought in another female stray who was under a year old. Shortly after that, my older female began peeing on our bed comforter here and there. This was something she had never done before.

 

After consulting with out Vet, it was determined to be the cause of our new young female addition having not yet been fixed. Once we had her fixed, my other female never peed on the bed again.

 

Not saying this is the same situation, or that you haven't already had the dog looked at, but if all else has failed, this is not normal behavious in any pet, and would warrant another check up or second opinion if necessary. 

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Dog signals?  Well, if you have a dog who prefers to relieve himself in the house, he won't signal to go out. He'll just walk to his "spot."

 

I had a samoyed that would go on my cream colored carpet.  I'd take him out and stand with him forever. He would hold it until I brought him in, then run to the carpet.

 

I had him for 10 years and he was never trained 100%.  I had to keep him out of rooms with carpets....never could trust him.

 

He was lovable, but dumb, I suppose.

 

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@goldensrbest I might be thinking of someone else but didn't you recently get rid of your dog because of health reasons?

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@goldensrbest Bless you for your patience. I'm sure you and that cute baby will eventually get there. Hang in there.