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[newziesuzie]

On 12/21/2014 Jackie6 said: You know what? It's a stupid apple, and not a very good one at that. If there's even a 1% chance that I could develop Listeria from this there's no way I'm gonna eat it. I have already gotten a refund and thrown the apples out. Not sure why the OP is getting so annoyed. And if certain people really believe that little elves are hand dipping these apples, you are really naive. That's all I'm gonna say on the topic.

^^^This. I said before I wouldn't play Russian Roulette with health just for a candy apple.

[Naturesbeauty]

I don't think this is hysteria....common sense tells me ""DON'T EAT ANY CARAMEL APPLES!"" Better Safe than sorry! It's not worth any price I don't care how much they were........! And I would also post on your Facebook or Instagram a note about this so maybe anyone you gave the caramel apples to as a gift might see it.

[Plaid Pants]

If anyone was going to get sick from Mrs. P's apples, it would be the show hosts, don't ya think?

Have any of them gotten sick?

Uh, no, they haven't.

Besides, if you just stop and think and just use just a little common sense, ask yourself if QVC would want to be involved in a big 'ol fat lawsuit, if they even suspected that their apples were bad.

They wouldn't want that would they?

No, they wouldn't.

So, if they even suspected that their apples were bad, don't you think that they would send out a big 'ol flashing neon warning to its customers, in order to prevent from being involved in that big 'ol nasty lawsuit?

Why, yes! Yes they would.

And since they haven't, logic dictates that their apple products are safe.

Case closed, your honor!

Crunch! Crunch! Crunch! Yum!

[VaBelle35]

The point you keep purposely missing is the fact that this is an ongoing and growing situation. The case is far from closed. In fact, it is very recently opened.

The CDC has to gather all of the information from all of the patients (and now their families) of everything they consumed during the impacted period of time. Do you think this happens overnight? And now every possible case where someone is showing symptoms is going to have to go through the same rigorous process.

If you followed the cantalope story a few years ago, the process the CDC, EHS, OSHA and the state equivalents went through to find the offending cantalopes and the cause of the illness was the stuff of sci-fi movies.

[Plaid Pants]

On 12/21/2014 VaBelle35 said:

The point you keep purposely missing is the fact that this is an ongoing and growing situation. The case is far from closed. In fact, it is very recently opened.

The CDC has to gather all of the information from all of the patients (and now their families) of everything they consumed during the impacted period of time. Do you think this happens overnight? And now every possible case where someone is showing symptoms is going to have to go through the same rigorous process.

If you followed the cantalope story a few years ago, the process the CDC, EHS, OSHA and the state equivalents went through to find the offending cantalopes and the cause of the illness was the stuff of sci-fi movies.

I'll repeat this part of my post, because you appeared to have missed it.

"Besides, if you just stop and think and just use just a little common sense, ask yourself if QVC would want to be involved in a big 'ol fat lawsuit, if they even suspected that their apples were bad."

Why would a big corporation like QVC want to run the risk of being sued, when it would be so much easier and cheaper to just issue a warning?

I mean, they issue recalls for other things all the time.

Why not the apples?

Why?

Ask yourself that.

[VaBelle35]

In the cantalope case back in 2011, I was listening to the CDC Conference Call with the media and they explained the process of tracking down how the bacteria got to the equipment at the catalope processing plan. It had to do with a pig farm next door and the trucks for the cantalope farm parked near the pig farm and the cross contamination came from tracking the contaminated soil from the pig farm to the factory.

Look at the timeline from that outbreak.

http://www.cdc.gov/listeria/outbreaks/cantaloupes-jensen-farms/110211/timeline.html

We are far from over with this one.

[VaBelle35]

On 12/21/2014 Plaid Pants said:

On 12/21/2014 VaBelle35 said:

The point you keep purposely missing is the fact that this is an ongoing and growing situation. The case is far from closed. In fact, it is very recently opened.

The CDC has to gather all of the information from all of the patients (and now their families) of everything they consumed during the impacted period of time. Do you think this happens overnight? And now every possible case where someone is showing symptoms is going to have to go through the same rigorous process.

If you followed the cantalope story a few years ago, the process the CDC, EHS, OSHA and the state equivalents went through to find the offending cantalopes and the cause of the illness was the stuff of sci-fi movies.

I'll repeat this part of my post, because you appeared to have missed it.

"Besides, if you just stop and think and just use just a little common sense, ask yourself if QVC would want to be involved in a big 'ol fat lawsuit, if they even suspected that their apples were bad."

Why would a big corporation like QVC want to run the risk of being sued, when it would be so much easier and cheaper to just issue a warning?

I mean, they issue recalls for other things all the time.

Why not the apples?

Why?

Ask yourself that.

I didn't miss it, it's just irrelevant.

I don't put my health and welfare and the health and welfare of people I know and care about in the hands of some big corporate whose primary concern is not my health and welfare and not the health and welfare of my family and friends.

Believe me, there is a room full of lawyers and PR people right now trying to figure out how to manage this situation. They are "monitoring" the situation and will act once they have more information.

I choose not to wait for some corporate lawyer to decide when it's time for me to stop eating contaminated apples.

[Plaid Pants]

On 12/21/2014 VaBelle35 said:

On 12/21/2014 Plaid Pants said:

On 12/21/2014 VaBelle35 said:

The point you keep purposely missing is the fact that this is an ongoing and growing situation. The case is far from closed. In fact, it is very recently opened.

The CDC has to gather all of the information from all of the patients (and now their families) of everything they consumed during the impacted period of time. Do you think this happens overnight? And now every possible case where someone is showing symptoms is going to have to go through the same rigorous process.

If you followed the cantalope story a few years ago, the process the CDC, EHS, OSHA and the state equivalents went through to find the offending cantalopes and the cause of the illness was the stuff of sci-fi movies.

I'll repeat this part of my post, because you appeared to have missed it.

"Besides, if you just stop and think and just use just a little common sense, ask yourself if QVC would want to be involved in a big 'ol fat lawsuit, if they even suspected that their apples were bad."

Why would a big corporation like QVC want to run the risk of being sued, when it would be so much easier and cheaper to just issue a warning?

I mean, they issue recalls for other things all the time.

Why not the apples?

Why?

Ask yourself that.

I didn't miss it, it's just irrelevant.

I don't put my health and welfare and the health and welfare of people I know and care about in the hands of some big corporate whose primary concern is not my health and welfare and not the health and welfare of my family and friends.

Believe me, there is a room full of lawyers and PR people right now trying to figure out how to manage this situation. They are "monitoring" the situation and will act once they have more information.

I choose not to wait for some corporate lawyer to decide when it's time for me to stop eating contaminated apples.

Perhaps, but wouldn't they want to cover their bases, "just in case"? If they even suspected that the apples were bad, you can bet your sweet bippy that they would issue a warning, just so that they would not get sued.

[Plaid Pants]

I just placed an order for of Mrs. P's apples.

I can't wait to enjoy their juicy deliciousness!

[VaBelle35]

You are assuming that QVC knows something the CDC doesn't and that's the kind of thinking that could get a lot of people sick. QVC is most likely relying on it's lawyers, PR people, what other companies are doing and experts in this area to guide their decision-making process. If QVC was a leader, they would have automatically refunded every single apple purchase from July to today, sent out all kinds of notices and given additional credits for the inconvenience. QVC is not a leader. They are waiting until their hands are forced (cf. Paula Deen).

As I said, I am not waiting for some corporate lawyer to decide when and if I should eat a potentially contaminated apple.