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05-12-2018 09:19 AM - edited 05-12-2018 09:21 AM
@Mominohio We pay the same taxes as those who live on public streets. Sheesh!
And why would you say our street isn't built to the same specifications as any public street? You don't know that.
Really, the conclusions jumped to on this board!!!!!
05-12-2018 10:42 AM
I don't believe they're going to close the street for 5 days. They can do one side at a time until it is finished.
05-12-2018 01:14 PM
@sissel wrote:Thank you for HOA's so fed up with lime green or electric blue houses & not maintain their lawns. Yes, some HOA are not strick and makes neighborhood houses look bad, get involved with their meetings. You pay your dues so open your mouth.Never had a problem, nice neighbors, everyone obeys & love it.
No one paints their houses ugly colors here. In fact, there is very little to paint except maybe your front door.
No one has wood on their homes that needs painted. Most are brick and siding and a few others.. siding only.
Everyone has their yard kept up and many pay for lawn service. We all built our homes around the same time and we all got new roofs and replacement windows around the same time too.
We have no HOA and don't have a need for one. No way on this side of heaven would I pay HOA fees.
Remember that thread about being frugal? Well, I am frugal. To me paying HOA money each and every month is wasting money. You are restricted from doing as you please in your own home and you have to pay for the privilege.
Some of the HOA rules are so silly and too controlling. And many times the homes are cookie cutter and look alike.
Everyone is different. Some people like to live like that, but not me.
05-12-2018 01:44 PM
@Carmie wrote:
@sissel wrote:Thank you for HOA's so fed up with lime green or electric blue houses & not maintain their lawns. Yes, some HOA are not strick and makes neighborhood houses look bad, get involved with their meetings. You pay your dues so open your mouth.Never had a problem, nice neighbors, everyone obeys & love it.
No one paints their houses ugly colors here. In fact, there is very little to paint except maybe your front door.
No one has wood on their homes that needs painted. Most are brick and siding and a few others.. siding only.
Everyone has their yard kept up and many pay for lawn service. We all built our homes around the same time and we all got new roofs and replacement windows around the same time too.
We have no HOA and don't have a need for one. No way on this side of heaven would I pay HOA fees.
Remember that thread about being frugal? Well, I am frugal. To me paying HOA money each and every month is wasting money. You are restricted from doing as you please in your own home and you have to pay for the privilege.
Some of the HOA rules are so silly and too controlling. And many times the homes are cookie cutter and look alike.
Everyone is different. Some people like to live like that, but not me.
I'd rather live in a box under a bridge than development controlled by a HOA.
05-12-2018 02:35 PM
To those who posted "negative" comments regarding living in a HOA or deed-restricted communities -- I would like to add:
Sadly, I don't know for sure but it seems OP @151949has a board comprised of people who like being "in charge or good ole' boy mentality" vs. most BOD in communities. She has a lot of issues -- whether choice of paint color for houses, streets, neighbors, etc.
Sorry she didn't get to move because there are many communities where HOA are run smoothly & properly!!!
Since I have a villa my HOA fees cover all lawn, tree, pesticide treatments, exterior painting and anything outside. (Single homes pay for their own over and above HOA fees).
05-12-2018 05:02 PM - edited 05-12-2018 05:27 PM
@151949 wrote:@Mominohio We pay the same taxes as those who live on public streets. Sheesh!
And why would you say our street isn't built to the same specifications as any public street? You don't know that.
Really, the conclusions jumped to on this board!!!!!
You should learn to read. I never said 'you' or 'your street'
I was relating about some areas here, one just down the road from us.
And how do you know you pay the same taxes? Here, part of your taxes are based on how much frontage along roads/streets you have. So a corner lot, with property along two roads is taxed higher than a same size lot that has only one road access. So no access to public road would definitely effect taxes, most like to the less.
Talk about jumping to conclusions.
05-12-2018 07:28 PM
I think you are the one who needs to go back and re read what you wrote.
05-12-2018 07:31 PM
@Mominohio wrote:
@Carmie wrote:@Mominohio I understand what you are saying, but in my mind, if the streets can be used by the public without restriction, then the public, through taxes should maintain them.
Having the residents being responsible for their own neighborhood streets is crazy. Now, I know that they exist, but I am surprised that anyone would buy a home in that neighborhood. I know I wouldn't.
That could get expensive quickly. I'd rather own my house and not the streets. I have no complaints where I live. The township maintains the streets, storm drains, snow removal and street cleaning once a week.
i do have to paint the fire hydrant on the corner of my lot. The Twp Is supposed to, but they never have...I paint it so it's not ugly and I don't mind.
I agree, would/could get very expensive.
The thing is, these developments are laid out knowing that they aren't approved for services, at least in my area. The developers build knowing the city/township etc. would not pay for the building of the roads or the maintenance of them.
Every person looking at land within those developments, or buying already built homes should be made fully aware of this (I have to wonder how sugar coated it might be in many cases) and the anticipated costs, but bet they sometimes aren't except in the fine print.
I see it this way. It really isn't fair to the rest of the local population living on public streets and needing services (paving, snow removal, etc.) to have to share the services (which means they will get less of them) with roads that never got the prior approval to be built, often are not laid out and built to the same specifications as public roads, and aren't being taxed the same as those that get those services.
Sometimes in this area, after many years, the private roads get absorbed into the public systems here, but I'm sure there is a process and additional taxation.
Not all municipalities can afford to assume the building and care of roads as developers want to continue to build and expand, and many places (developments) want to keep better care of their roads than the local area can or will provide.
And at least in our area, even though the public isn't forbidden from driving these roads, they really go nowhere. They are simply a web of streets/roads that get into and out of the development and to each home, usually with just one way in and one way out, sometimes a secondary small access road. So they really don't get public traffic anyway.
I think some people choose to buy into places like this, depending on where they live and what the weather does to roads. Here in Ohio, weather is harsh on roads, lots of freezing and thawing, and the roads are in a constant state of mess. In other climates, the roads last much longer, hold up much better, and probably don't require nearly the upkeep, making it a better 'deal' than other locations.
I'm pretty sure these type of areas here, don't get taxed the same as those on public roads.
05-12-2018 07:40 PM
@151949 wrote:
@Mominohio wrote:
@Carmie wrote:@Mominohio I understand what you are saying, but in my mind, if the streets can be used by the public without restriction, then the public, through taxes should maintain them.
Having the residents being responsible for their own neighborhood streets is crazy. Now, I know that they exist, but I am surprised that anyone would buy a home in that neighborhood. I know I wouldn't.
That could get expensive quickly. I'd rather own my house and not the streets. I have no complaints where I live. The township maintains the streets, storm drains, snow removal and street cleaning once a week.
i do have to paint the fire hydrant on the corner of my lot. The Twp Is supposed to, but they never have...I paint it so it's not ugly and I don't mind.
I agree, would/could get very expensive.
The thing is, these developments are laid out knowing that they aren't approved for services, at least in my area. The developers build knowing the city/township etc. would not pay for the building of the roads or the maintenance of them.
Every person looking at land within those developments, or buying already built homes should be made fully aware of this (I have to wonder how sugar coated it might be in many cases) and the anticipated costs, but bet they sometimes aren't except in the fine print.
I see it this way. It really isn't fair to the rest of the local population living on public streets and needing services (paving, snow removal, etc.) to have to share the services (which means they will get less of them) with roads that never got the prior approval to be built, often are not laid out and built to the same specifications as public roads, and aren't being taxed the same as those that get those services.
Sometimes in this area, after many years, the private roads get absorbed into the public systems here, but I'm sure there is a process and additional taxation.
Not all municipalities can afford to assume the building and care of roads as developers want to continue to build and expand, and many places (developments) want to keep better care of their roads than the local area can or will provide.
And at least in our area, even though the public isn't forbidden from driving these roads, they really go nowhere. They are simply a web of streets/roads that get into and out of the development and to each home, usually with just one way in and one way out, sometimes a secondary small access road. So they really don't get public traffic anyway.
I think some people choose to buy into places like this, depending on where they live and what the weather does to roads. Here in Ohio, weather is harsh on roads, lots of freezing and thawing, and the roads are in a constant state of mess. In other climates, the roads last much longer, hold up much better, and probably don't require nearly the upkeep, making it a better 'deal' than other locations.
I'm pretty sure these type of areas here, don't get taxed the same as those on public roads.
Stand by everything in that post. It was a conversation with someone else who was looking for reasons why anyone would buy into that kind of set up, and why they operate the way they do (having to be privately paved).
You even highlighted the sentence that says 'in my area'. Like I said, where do you think anything about this post was about you or your specific case? It was addressed to another poster, about private roads in a general sense. If it doesn' t apply to your situation so what, it wasn't about you anyway.
So what is the point?
05-12-2018 07:42 PM
@151949 wrote:I think you are the one who needs to go back and re read what you wrote.
And maybe you need to quote the post to which you are referring the next time. I posted after the one you are taking issue with, and I thought that was the one you were addressing. Quote the post in the first place, and maybe someone will understand what you are addressing, not that it changes anything I've said.
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