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‎12-27-2014 08:12 PM
On 12/27/2014 RJL-DLL 75 said:My friends went to Ivy League schools and grew up in million dollar homes. I think we're good in the education department, thanks.On 12/27/2014 PeterDM said:On 12/27/2014 RJL-DLL 75 said:The individuals who believe that asking guests to remove their shoes upon entering their homes are wrong. Yes, you are the master or mistress of the house and have the authority to dictate how things run once people are in it. You also have the right to serve your guests hot dogs on paper plates while walking around with your finger up your nose. This, too, would show a lack of education and good taste. If I were to attend a party at one of my friend's who lives on the Main Line, and they asked the guests to remove their shoes, that would be there last party. They would be laughed out of society. I have never been asked to remove my shoes at a threshold. Never. If I WERE asked, I would assume that I was at the wrong door in the wrong neighborhood. To put it bluntly, asking guests to remove their shoes upon entering your home is an archaic and embarrassing practice of the lower classes. It is never appropriate, and it shows an unfortunate lack of knowledge and grace on behalf of the hostess. Feel free to argue with me, but you will not find any, proper etiquette manual that will support the enforcement of this practice. If you don't care for etiquette, that's fine. Enjoy being an Oscar Mayer Weiner.On 12/27/2014 chickenbutt said:Your house, your rules.
I agree and don't want friends who do not respect my wishes. There are too many bad things that we bring in on our shoes, germs, sp*t, insecticides and more. I have cats and don't want them expose to things like that. I have seen people sp*it and worse in public and don't want it being carried in on someone's shoes.Sounds like your friends need some educating. Some people want clean homes and some don't.
‎12-27-2014 08:16 PM
On 12/27/2014 chickenbutt said:
One must love the weekends - troll time.
ITA trolls are alive and well. Well...maybe not well in the mind! I just put him on ignore!!!
He just told me that I ""provoked him"" a little scary.
‎12-27-2014 08:20 PM
There are some cultures (Japanese, Hawaiian, etc) where it is rude NOT to take shoes off upon entering a persons home.
What would a person do, if they were invited to the home of a Japanese or Hawaiian friend, where they practiced this custom, which is a part of their culture?
Spit in their face?
Insist on having it your way?
If you insist on wearing your shoes in to their home, when it is their custom and culture to not do so, you basically are spitting in to their face.
‎12-27-2014 08:21 PM
Most people do not want to bother taking their shoes off when they enter someone's home, but I would appreciate it if they would in my home.
‎12-27-2014 08:23 PM
On 12/27/2014 baker said:Most people do not want to bother taking their shoes off when they enter someone's home, but I would appreciate it if they would in my home.
I agree. I want to keep my home as clean and germ free as possible and so do my friends. I always take my shoes off when entering my friends home...just out of respect, and my friends do the same.
‎12-27-2014 08:26 PM
On 12/27/2014 Plaid Pants said:There are some cultures (Japanese, Hawaiian, etc) where it is rude NOT to take shoes off upon entering a persons home.
What would a person do, if they were invited to the home of a Japanese or Hawaiian friend, where they practiced this custom, which is a part of their culture?
Spit in their face?
Insist on having it your way?
If you insist on wearing your shoes in to their home, when it is their custom and culture to not do so, you basically are spitting in to their face.
ITA
‎12-27-2014 08:31 PM
oh the semi-annual ""shoes or no shoes"" topics are always ""fun"" and interesting to read. it is one of those topics that will never be resolved and no one will change anyone elses mind about it.
growing up and in my home now we follow the ""no shoes"" rules. that is how i grew up and that is how i manage my home. most of our friends and family do the same. do i force anyone to remove their shoes? no (the exception being friends of my children....then it is a must). do people pretty much know that i prefer no shoes in our home? yes.
if anyone would ask me or my family to remove shoes then i have no problem with it at all. i would NEVER be offended.
it is a part of our culture that people are to remove shoes in the home.
‎12-27-2014 08:32 PM
On 12/27/2014 PeterDM said:It depends on where you live and your experience. If you were so highly educated, you would understand that. Where I live, people automatically remove their shoes before entering a home. I don't move in such exalted circles as you, but I can assure you we are gracious and hospitable, which is more than I can say for you, judging by the demeaning tone of your post. Eta: some of the rudest, class less people I have known grew up in million dollar homes and attended Ivy league schools. That means nothing.On 12/27/2014 RJL-DLL 75 said:My friends went to Ivy League schools and grew up in million dollar homes. I think we're good in the education department, thanks.On 12/27/2014 PeterDM said:On 12/27/2014 RJL-DLL 75 said:The individuals who believe that asking guests to remove their shoes upon entering their homes are wrong. Yes, you are the master or mistress of the house and have the authority to dictate how things run once people are in it. You also have the right to serve your guests hot dogs on paper plates while walking around with your finger up your nose. This, too, would show a lack of education and good taste. If I were to attend a party at one of my friend's who lives on the Main Line, and they asked the guests to remove their shoes, that would be there last party. They would be laughed out of society. I have never been asked to remove my shoes at a threshold. Never. If I WERE asked, I would assume that I was at the wrong door in the wrong neighborhood. To put it bluntly, asking guests to remove their shoes upon entering your home is an archaic and embarrassing practice of the lower classes. It is never appropriate, and it shows an unfortunate lack of knowledge and grace on behalf of the hostess. Feel free to argue with me, but you will not find any, proper etiquette manual that will support the enforcement of this practice. If you don't care for etiquette, that's fine. Enjoy being an Oscar Mayer Weiner.On 12/27/2014 chickenbutt said:Your house, your rules.
I agree and don't want friends who do not respect my wishes. There are too many bad things that we bring in on our shoes, germs, sp*t, insecticides and more. I have cats and don't want them expose to things like that. I have seen people sp*it and worse in public and don't want it being carried in on someone's shoes.Sounds like your friends need some educating. Some people want clean homes and some don't.
‎12-27-2014 08:33 PM
I used to work with a guy that was born & raised on Guam, but was ethnic Hawaiian & when he came to my house, he always removed his shoes by the front door, but he wore socks, so he wasn't barefoot. I told him he didn't really need to take his shoes off, but he said it felt weird to wear shoes inside a house & it was part of his custom & was what he was used to, so I told him to do whatever he was comfortable doing.
‎12-27-2014 08:35 PM
On 12/27/2014 Marienkaefer2 said:Asking your guests to strip at the door is not gracious or hospitable.On 12/27/2014 PeterDM said:It depends on where you live and your experience. If you were so highly educated, you would understand that. Where I live, people automatically remove their shoes before entering a home. I don't move in such exalted circles as you, but I can assure you we are gracious and hospitable, which is more than I can say for you, judging by the demeaning tone of your post.On 12/27/2014 RJL-DLL 75 said:My friends went to Ivy League schools and grew up in million dollar homes. I think we're good in the education department, thanks.On 12/27/2014 PeterDM said:On 12/27/2014 RJL-DLL 75 said:The individuals who believe that asking guests to remove their shoes upon entering their homes are wrong. Yes, you are the master or mistress of the house and have the authority to dictate how things run once people are in it. You also have the right to serve your guests hot dogs on paper plates while walking around with your finger up your nose. This, too, would show a lack of education and good taste. If I were to attend a party at one of my friend's who lives on the Main Line, and they asked the guests to remove their shoes, that would be there last party. They would be laughed out of society. I have never been asked to remove my shoes at a threshold. Never. If I WERE asked, I would assume that I was at the wrong door in the wrong neighborhood. To put it bluntly, asking guests to remove their shoes upon entering your home is an archaic and embarrassing practice of the lower classes. It is never appropriate, and it shows an unfortunate lack of knowledge and grace on behalf of the hostess. Feel free to argue with me, but you will not find any, proper etiquette manual that will support the enforcement of this practice. If you don't care for etiquette, that's fine. Enjoy being an Oscar Mayer Weiner.On 12/27/2014 chickenbutt said:Your house, your rules.
I agree and don't want friends who do not respect my wishes. There are too many bad things that we bring in on our shoes, germs, sp*t, insecticides and more. I have cats and don't want them expose to things like that. I have seen people sp*it and worse in public and don't want it being carried in on someone's shoes.Sounds like your friends need some educating. Some people want clean homes and some don't.
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